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oh

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hey

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this is another episode of ufo garage

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i'm ben and i'm joe and this is where we

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talk about ufos aliens and all things

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weird plus i quit my job so we'll

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mention that too hey

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what's up everybody

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how are y'all doing today

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[\h__\h] yeah it's tuesday i think today's

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two today is tuesday

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hey

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what's up man how are you doing today

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dude you're doing good good man good i'm

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doing i'm doing great dude we uh uh i

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just had some oysters

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you had some moistness

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some oysters oh oysters oysters

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nice

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and dude today's going good i mean that

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that's all that's my news is that i had

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uh oysters today

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yeah that's what's up hey alabama tight

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man we just got started bro don't even

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don't even bring that in here already

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with your

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your silliness

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he's already talking about uh he's

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already talking about those aggies dude

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dude aggie giggum kingdom baby how dare

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you let's go you know what ben for that

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you're out of the show it's just me

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today

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take that yeah i have the power too bin

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all right

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how did you do that

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yeah

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i'm smart how about this

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i'm still here oh wait

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uh dude well you know what i you know

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why i'm happy i'm i'm happy are you

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happy i'm very happy you told everybody

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why we're happy you quit your job today

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which is freaking awesome guys listen

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you guys are regular listeners to the

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i'm just so glad you're gonna have a

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back and knees for another

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at least 30 years 30 years i'm going for

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30. i know you're gonna say 10 but i'm

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going for 30. you know what i'm saying

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yeah so already just congrats on that

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because now i'm gonna have insurance so

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i'm gonna start going to chiropractors

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and [\h__\h] you know what i'm saying i'm

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gonna go to the doctor for the first

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time i'm 35 years old and i haven't been

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since i was like 17.

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i'm gonna go check it out see what's up

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dude you know what i'm saying i think

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doctors are supposed to be cool actually

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so we'll see

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you know they're supposed to help you

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but they also kind of judge you a little

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bit a little bit just people a little

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bit they're like

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i've got all kinds of answers literally

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the last time i went to the doctor it

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was like one of those fast med clinics

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and it was because i had poison ivy all

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over me and like it got on it got all my

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balls and i needed a a shot like a

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steroid shot immediately to get that out

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and it was it was uh it was it was you

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know not fun it was not fun so but uh

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pixar didn't happen

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uh you want to see uh you want to see

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the appointment i'm just kidding

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yeah dude yeah uh dude so the other

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reason i think we're happy is uh that

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that okay so one of our favorite

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reddit mysteries of all time this

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happened in

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2013. it's called throw wheeling

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everybody everybody kind of knows about

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it that's

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at least been a little bit into ufos

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aliens abduction stories

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has traversed the dark sometimes very

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uh corners and recesses of reddit um

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if you don't know about the uh throwawa

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alien i'm trying to say it right it's

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not throwaway alien

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because we did do an episode about this

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before but if you want to pronounce it

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write it i feel like it's throw

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throw alien

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story so it's like this the first post

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was about this person's abduct abduction

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and it just captivated thousands of

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people and it just dove into this dark

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sometimes dark sometimes enlightening

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very curious rabbit hall uh that has

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up until this day honestly uh for for a

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lot of people but the uh the biggest

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thing about this post and uh our guest

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is in the background like you're

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butchering this

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the biggest thing the biggest notable

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things is that he predicted when the

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government would basically come out

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about aliens pretty much which was this

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past summer june 20 june 25th uh the

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date is a little different uh than in

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the post but close dude very close and

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we'll go into detail about that a little

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bit uh as we talk to our guest this

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goddamn story had us like

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what do you think dude what do you think

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for like a long ass time

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i'm so excited

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like we would like get to a point where

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all right this guy is for real and then

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we would chat you're like no bro he just

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i don't know there's too much

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controversy i mean it's been eight years

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it was eight years

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it's been a while it's been a while

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i'm so excited yeah so without further

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ado we're gonna call him thoreau uh

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which he's known on twitter thoreau

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welcome to the show

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hi hello can you hear me am i hello

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where am i who are you

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you've made it

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i've made it i've arrived uh hello

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universe uh yeah guys i gotta say i'm

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nervous right i got those tingles in my

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fingers i got the butterflies in the

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belly but i have my beer i have my cbd i

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had a couple gummies

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i like it let's do this i i'm ready i'm

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gonna try my best

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here we go thank you for joining us

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tonight man i know what you guys excited

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but trepidatious yeah well it's it's

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internet but it's like for an ego i

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guess it's like

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you can come out with uh the most

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sentimental thing and people are going

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to make fun of you or

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that you're lying or you could say

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something really profound somebody's

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going to like find that one tiny thing

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you know uh absolutely

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so i'm just uh

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my buddy my cousin and brother are on

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the phone with me they're watching by

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the way so they're gonna potentially

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help me verify some of the the details

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that i encoded about myself in the story

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right so so they're here they're just

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texting me awesome what's up brother

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what's up cousin abram how are you doing

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you can call them number one and nerd

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and nerd two is their nicknames nice

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dude nice

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a brother and a cousin you know you know

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those those fools the the the uh the

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cousin brothers

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yeah yeah me and ben me and ben like to

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call each other their brother cousins

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my cousin is much more like my brother

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so it works hell yeah i like that dude i

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like that man it's awesome to have

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somebody close in your family that's

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that's the funny part they're not into

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this and so i totally bombard them all

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about all the time we we game together

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right and i say hey guys i'm so alien

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leave me alone and they said come on

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thoreau stop already so

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that's so great man i love it as most

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people who probably hear about it are i

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i tend to talk about it a lot because it

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was a large part of my life and to me a

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very uh

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important part of my life so yeah yeah i

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mean being internet famous and not being

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able to tell anybody about it um

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like skinny bob skinny it's awesome hey

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skinny i love that

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and it's a controversial topic and it's

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right in the middle of all of the ufo

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stuff so not being able to talk about it

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i had to give props to the whole

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throwaway community if i get emotional

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you'll have to forgive me um

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yeah understandably so we're doing it

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uh seriously it helped me get through a

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very difficult time in my life and and

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muffins in particular was an absolute

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godsend so he did a lot not only for me

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i think he may be watching so many

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yes dude that's awesome so i want to uh

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share my screen uh just because muffins

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uh muffins le muffins 32 uh is is the uh

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subreddit throw alien and he started

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she i don't know

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uh is i think he did a podcast i

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and subreddit uh i i posted on there

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about the matrix a few too many times

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and the sub was going to trash i posted

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subreddit which is

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oh my god dude that's so awesome dude

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you're like trying to make updates it's

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in a lot of ways it feels like

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undercover boss right i got fired from

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my own job

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yes yes hey at least you didn't have to

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give them like a new car or house or

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like right

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pay for their kids or nothing they'd

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have to settle for a toy bike right yes

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dude

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so i know that you were telling me that

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you're going through really hard times

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yeah and you know if your family is gone

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i'd like to present you with this new

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here you go enjoy it it's gonna solve

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all of your problems

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it's a thought that counts if they don't

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take their cell phone

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[\h__\h] we should be grateful

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oh man yes so so dude you're you're

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saying you're like being so thankful for

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for muffin le muffins 32. yeah um

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and i kind of want to give some people

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that are aren't familiar with this

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subject just a little bit of dive

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because i've got some questions about

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him too because there's a lot of yeah

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conspiracy theories that maybe you are

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also

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you know because i mean this this person

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like did a huge deep dive he's not the

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only one i mean there's there's like

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interactive timelines yeah

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yes i know believe me i know hours

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days uh put into the research and uh

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category categorization and uh oh my god

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like

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it's apparent how much this story means

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to a lot of people so

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yeah

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it was frightening honestly they they

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figured out my typing speed but pretty

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damn close i type it around 70 words per

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minute it depends on context but uh but

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absolutely i think they said it was like

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60 to 62 average they looked at the time

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period between the comments it was

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frightening right um and as somebody

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who's gone through like workplace

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harassment before

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going through this kind of stuff on the

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internet where anybody can do anything

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or say anything and whatever was was

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kind of frightening right um so it was

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yeah it was a it was a it was a

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harrowing time absolutely um

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and

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for a lot of reasons but yeah absolutely

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sorry

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i think dude no that's perfect i mean

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that's like the perfect answer because

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like what my next question is i mean it

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has to be said you know like

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everybody's probably wondering how do we

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know it's you how do we know it's the

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real

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uh throw alien and that's a good

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question i've talked to you off off air

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and you convinced me since day one so i

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you know for all those out there that

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are skeptical

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uh there are there are a few things that

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that swayed me in the direction that

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that i uh

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so uh confidently said we so confidently

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said the real thro

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throw away like there's a reason y'all

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just just stick around just stick around

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and and and hear us out but uh

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for you what would be what would be like

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the the dumbed-down version is is like

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because the the whole thing i just want

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to i just want to preface this like the

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whole thing is like

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throw alien said uh i'm gone

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i'm gonna leave if anybody comes back

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and claims it's me it's not don't

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believe him i'm not here don't believe

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him i absolutely said that so there we

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are

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and here i am right making some wild

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claims uh

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even wilder than what i originally said

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yeah

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talking you were like i don't think i'm

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ever going public and i was like all

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right man that's cool that's cool yeah

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yeah

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kept asking at perseverance right um

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it's a big thing so

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when i laugh i i think it's a good

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question i think it's absolutely a valid

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question to ask and i think it's

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an appropriate question to ask

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when i last commented i honestly didn't

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know my world had been turned upside

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down and i think you have to if you put

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it in context of that

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it makes a lot more sense i was done

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with it all i didn't i

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my whole understanding of reality had

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snapped at some point because i started

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going into hologram theory how can i

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know the world around me is even real

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right

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and by the way i have a therapist now

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that i started

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relevant um

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but uh i talked to i talked with about

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this stuff with my therapist right

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two branches deep got to come out of the

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rabbit hole uh so i talked to my

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therapist about all of these things

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right because it it it has some pretty

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crazy things

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uh my reality had kind of

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fallen apart

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i had questions like am i telepathically

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communicating with aliens sounds absurd

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right it sounds so [\h__\h] stupid

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and you're gonna be labeled a crazy

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person if you say that right so i i see

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it i see a therapist now they didn't say

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i'm crazy it's actually going very well

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um

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but uh

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yeah so i said don't believe me i was

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done i was at that point i was like i i

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don't know what's going on um when you

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feel like the universe is is

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communicating to you in such a personal

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and

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invasive way

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right it's

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it really turns your world inside out

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right and there were many times where i

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felt like maybe the universe itself was

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speaking almost to me which sounds

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[\h__\h] stupid and i know how dumb that

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sounds um

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i'm and i'm fully okay doesn't sound

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done to me man my brother and my cousin

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are texting me and i'm trying to pay

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attention to what they're saying too i'm

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trying to multitask and it's so hard

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um

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yeah

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well and one of the things i found out

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in therapy is i have adhd right which is

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another

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complicating issue right it's a lack of

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executive function so my memory is hard

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it's another thing right um so when when

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i made my final message i was ready to

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forget it all i i was done with it and

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then when i thought about it the account

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was always a throwaway it was in the

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name i couldn't

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leave it right it it couldn't and by

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beyond that i wasn't in it for the karma

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deleting the i i was shocked at how many

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karma things it got right and i knew

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people would say it's for the karma or

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it's for the money he's trying to

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capitalize on it right i have a very

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nice job i'm very happy very successful

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my career right i don't need the money i

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was a journalist in a former life i i

430
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did the the professional writing i'm

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living my dream right uh

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and so

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sorry i i got down into a rabbit trail

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dude

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so a lot of the details because this

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humanizes you man like

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this in this context right yeah

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absolutely

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and uh

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so i'm glad to come out now because i

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know that a lot of people did have a

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hard time with it

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understand right um it was it was a hard

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time because all of those coincidences

445
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right i don't know what they were um but

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it lined up very well with a lot of

447
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things and that that frightened me right

448
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i was scared it was creeped me out um

449
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so why am i talking about it now right

450
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why am i coming back and i've decided

451
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that i'm going to come out

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what proof do i have the whole story was

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it's gonna sound dumb

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but it was a pun right the whole story

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that's why my name is a pun right it was

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a double meaning it was an allegory it

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was an encoded message about my life the

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message like the story itself was the

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proof

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just like it doesn't matter what you

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believe about reality reality is reality

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right is kind of the parallel i saw it

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in and so i encoded details about my

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life

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in the story i listed several jobs i

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lifted my tooth right there it fell out

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i'm missing my tooth right it's and it

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happened in my late 20s like i said in

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the story right um so um

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it's you know

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the story was the proof i have gotten

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i've distanced myself enough from the i

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know people are talking in the chat i'm

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sorry i'm trying to keep up with that as

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well um

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sorry well we'll get to questions uh uh

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uh we we have uh uh wrenches hopefully

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showing up i don't think we have any

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uh somebody had a great pun earlier

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throw away

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throw a whale in i loved it um by the

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way another funny thing about puns on my

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professional linkedin right i spend my

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entire about me section as a monologue

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about puns and how they are relevant to

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your workplace as a as a as a

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demonstration of lateral thinking right

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because to me puns is about thinking

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outside of the box and i think that's

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what the the story of throwaway alien

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kind of

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is right um so yeah uh i i hope that

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kind of covers why am i talking about

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this now also i think that i was on to

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something i think i had some thoughts

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about consciousness uh and i feel like

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it's relevant and i hope that science

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will investigate these things uh a

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little bit more because i believe that

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there is our scientific answers coming

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from people like gary nolan diana pazuka

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uh people like that

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so here i am

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if i can

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so that's i think that's a great blank

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make it like hey

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here's like

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some

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idea of

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all this

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how you would just you are who you you

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know say you are which i still believe

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and we haven't even gotten to the meat

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of it uh and i i feel like this is a

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really great blanket thing to to to kind

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of leave for now on pause and i i do to

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better describe that would be to go into

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some of the detail and i know we we

519
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don't want to spend the entire time we

520
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have with you on the throw alien story

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because we i agree we have a lot of uh

522
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really awesome stories to get to so

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if we can

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if you said you had a a game we could

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play

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that yeah i'll be back and look at civic

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things and and before we do i just

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want to read the first paragraph if

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that's cool i'll try to make it quick

530
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not the best reason but i will try just

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to give context so just go back to the

532
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very first uh post and this was on uh

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originally on ask reddit you posted

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throwaway account oh actually i'm gonna

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share my screen

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throw away because i'm afraid i was

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first

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quote abducted in quote in 1987 i well

539
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years old i say abducted

540
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but it's not like that actually you go

541
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willingly it's scary but it's exciting

542
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too

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and they are somehow able okay about

544
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things it's not until later that you

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feel bad or like you've been violated

546
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and they don't do a lot of probing like

547
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raping or anything like that it's

548
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hollywood nonsense

549
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they look inside of people sometimes but

550
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they have machines that do it

551
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not really machines but it's like a room

552
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where they get

553
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done and

554
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to explain so just imagine like all the

555
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walls are kind of like an x-ray machines

556
00:20:37,990 --> 00:20:35,520
question mark

557
00:20:39,669 --> 00:20:38,000
that's the easiest way to describe it

558
00:20:42,230 --> 00:20:39,679
and i want to end on this really quick

559
00:20:44,070 --> 00:20:42,240
thorough is that it's the writing style

560
00:20:46,310 --> 00:20:44,080
is very stream of consciousness it's

561
00:20:47,750 --> 00:20:46,320
like it's like almost like a frantic i

562
00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:47,760
need to get this [\h__\h] out there right

563
00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:48,480
now

564
00:20:52,310 --> 00:20:51,360
i need people to understand where i'm at

565
00:20:54,149 --> 00:20:52,320
so

566
00:20:56,070 --> 00:20:54,159
what frame of my my first question is

567
00:20:57,350 --> 00:20:56,080
what frame of mind

568
00:20:59,270 --> 00:20:57,360
were you in when you were writing this

569
00:21:01,350 --> 00:20:59,280
was this predetermined like hey i am

570
00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:01,360
going to choose this writing style or

571
00:21:04,710 --> 00:21:02,480
how did that go

572
00:21:06,470 --> 00:21:04,720
it was so one of the things

573
00:21:09,029 --> 00:21:06,480
just for a little bit of context about

574
00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:09,039
me i have a background in charismatic

575
00:21:11,909 --> 00:21:10,480
christianity which are the people who

576
00:21:13,190 --> 00:21:11,919
believe in prophecies and dreams and

577
00:21:14,789 --> 00:21:13,200
stuff like that and weird stuff my

578
00:21:16,710 --> 00:21:14,799
hypothesis at the time was that it is

579
00:21:17,590 --> 00:21:16,720
the same mechanism that they do their

580
00:21:19,750 --> 00:21:17,600
stuff

581
00:21:22,310 --> 00:21:19,760
through that remote viewing and psychic

582
00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:22,320
abilities are all

583
00:21:27,110 --> 00:21:24,400
done right um so that's kind of some of

584
00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:27,120
the background

585
00:21:30,149 --> 00:21:28,720
about that so

586
00:21:31,909 --> 00:21:30,159
i was very much into like dream

587
00:21:33,669 --> 00:21:31,919
journaling and stuff like that and also

588
00:21:35,909 --> 00:21:33,679
these like esoteric mix like christian

589
00:21:36,789 --> 00:21:35,919
mysticism kind of thing uh

590
00:21:37,590 --> 00:21:36,799
and

591
00:21:52,470 --> 00:21:37,600
i

592
00:21:54,710 --> 00:21:52,480
but

593
00:21:56,789 --> 00:21:54,720
yeah so i i seem to remember being i

594
00:21:59,029 --> 00:21:56,799
don't know if it was a dream state or a

595
00:22:01,270 --> 00:21:59,039
trance state i do know that when i wrote

596
00:22:02,390 --> 00:22:01,280
my last update in may

597
00:22:10,789 --> 00:22:02,400
um

598
00:22:12,630 --> 00:22:10,799
in may i was definitely in some kind of

599
00:22:14,390 --> 00:22:12,640
a dream state it was like 5 a.m when i

600
00:22:16,149 --> 00:22:14,400
wrote it i think i posted it around 10

601
00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:16,159
a.m and just went to work and forgot

602
00:22:19,669 --> 00:22:18,080
about it right

603
00:22:21,510 --> 00:22:19,679
as far as eight years ago it's harder

604
00:22:23,750 --> 00:22:21,520
for me to remember that stuff but i

605
00:22:25,750 --> 00:22:23,760
seemed to have a

606
00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:25,760
remembrance of

607
00:22:29,830 --> 00:22:27,600
i have to write it down before i lose it

608
00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:29,840
right there was an urgency absolutely

609
00:22:32,870 --> 00:22:30,960
and that's why it is stream of

610
00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:32,880
consciousness what i understand from

611
00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:35,520
people like diana pasulka and uh like

612
00:22:39,750 --> 00:22:37,440
gary nolan and the people who look into

613
00:22:41,190 --> 00:22:39,760
these consciousness things is that there

614
00:22:43,750 --> 00:22:41,200
actually is something to it and so this

615
00:22:46,149 --> 00:22:43,760
was in a way it was my way of exploring

616
00:22:47,909 --> 00:22:46,159
this from in what i believed to be a

617
00:22:48,789 --> 00:22:47,919
scientific way

618
00:22:49,909 --> 00:22:48,799
uh

619
00:22:51,270 --> 00:22:49,919
to explore some of these dream

620
00:22:53,350 --> 00:22:51,280
consciousness things i don't think i

621
00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:53,360
ever like i started out i wrote it in

622
00:22:56,310 --> 00:22:54,960
microsoft ex

623
00:22:58,470 --> 00:22:56,320
word or something

624
00:22:59,430 --> 00:22:58,480
one of those things what right the paper

625
00:23:01,029 --> 00:22:59,440
clip

626
00:23:02,230 --> 00:23:01,039
yeah

627
00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:02,240
clippy

628
00:23:10,390 --> 00:23:05,760
much but

629
00:23:11,909 --> 00:23:10,400
yeah i did um so i i i it started out as

630
00:23:13,590 --> 00:23:11,919
a note to myself with some thoughts

631
00:23:16,149 --> 00:23:13,600
about what the future would

632
00:23:17,510 --> 00:23:16,159
be like right that that there was enough

633
00:23:19,110 --> 00:23:17,520
things

634
00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:19,120
it's i just don't know how to describe

635
00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:20,880
it and it's so hard for me because it

636
00:23:25,750 --> 00:23:23,039
was eight years ago the best i can do is

637
00:23:27,510 --> 00:23:25,760
it was like it's very fuzzy but it seems

638
00:23:29,430 --> 00:23:27,520
like it was some kind of a dreamlike

639
00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:29,440
state right and so i'm trying to

640
00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:31,039
remember all of the things that made

641
00:23:35,350 --> 00:23:32,960
that i was thinking at that time

642
00:23:37,510 --> 00:23:35,360
yeah not just about writing but your the

643
00:23:39,029 --> 00:23:37,520
experience that you're drawing on right

644
00:23:40,870 --> 00:23:39,039
yeah um

645
00:23:43,990 --> 00:23:40,880
you kind of let yourself go right and

646
00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:44,000
you kind of float uh absolutely and and

647
00:23:50,549 --> 00:23:46,480
you lose control a little bit not like

648
00:23:53,590 --> 00:23:50,559
physically but i do and i also sorry

649
00:23:55,269 --> 00:23:53,600
just to go one quick thing i think of

650
00:23:57,190 --> 00:23:55,279
the the whole story in three parts the

651
00:23:58,230 --> 00:23:57,200
first part was the very first top level

652
00:24:00,549 --> 00:23:58,240
comment

653
00:24:01,510 --> 00:24:00,559
which was you just read the second part

654
00:24:03,830 --> 00:24:01,520
are the

655
00:24:06,230 --> 00:24:03,840
q a questions and answers that did that

656
00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:06,240
happened that night and the next day

657
00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:07,919
it hap i did i came back the next day

658
00:24:11,269 --> 00:24:09,840
because i thought if it is some kind of

659
00:24:13,510 --> 00:24:11,279
consciousness thing and it's based on

660
00:24:14,950 --> 00:24:13,520
consciousness you can turn it on and off

661
00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:14,960
right um

662
00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:16,400
and so that's why i came back the second

663
00:24:20,549 --> 00:24:18,240
day and started answering more questions

664
00:24:22,070 --> 00:24:20,559
so uh then the third part is the may

665
00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:22,080
update and i think i left like one

666
00:24:27,909 --> 00:24:24,640
comment or something after that um yeah

667
00:24:31,909 --> 00:24:30,390
i i sorry i i lost my train of thought

668
00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:31,919
but i think that answered your question

669
00:24:34,870 --> 00:24:33,440
yeah you did you answered the question

670
00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:34,880
absolutely joe i think you were gonna

671
00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:36,240
say something brother

672
00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:39,120
okay that was like a few minutes ago oh

673
00:24:45,990 --> 00:24:40,320
sorry dude

674
00:24:49,669 --> 00:24:48,470
so don't say it now i forget

675
00:24:51,990 --> 00:24:49,679
same same

676
00:24:53,830 --> 00:24:52,000
i can keep it going so uh i love that

677
00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:53,840
you said that you you think of the story

678
00:24:57,510 --> 00:24:55,600
in two in three parts because i have in

679
00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:57,520
my notes that i think of the story in

680
00:25:01,350 --> 00:24:59,360
three and two parts because it's the

681
00:25:02,230 --> 00:25:01,360
original post and then the second part

682
00:25:03,909 --> 00:25:02,240
is like

683
00:25:05,830 --> 00:25:03,919
okay

684
00:25:08,710 --> 00:25:05,840
you come back in

685
00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:08,720
like in may saying hey yeah i hated the

686
00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:10,720
traveler by the way

687
00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:13,440
it's oh see we gotta go into that okay

688
00:25:16,789 --> 00:25:14,640
i'm writing that down so we don't

689
00:25:17,590 --> 00:25:16,799
[\h__\h] forget the traveler

690
00:25:18,630 --> 00:25:17,600
okay

691
00:25:24,310 --> 00:25:18,640
so

692
00:25:25,350 --> 00:25:24,320
just to finish this thought the second

693
00:25:27,029 --> 00:25:25,360
part where you

694
00:25:28,630 --> 00:25:27,039
okay sorry first part you're you're

695
00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:28,640
explaining your story which it's a very

696
00:25:33,269 --> 00:25:30,720
long post and that's what sparked

697
00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:33,279
ignited this whole thing yeah the second

698
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:35,840
time you come back is eight years later

699
00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:38,080
bro uh it's like seven years and some

700
00:25:44,070 --> 00:25:40,320
months yeah i've been years late

701
00:25:46,230 --> 00:25:44,080
so in that original post post you give a

702
00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:46,240
date of july yeah

703
00:25:51,029 --> 00:25:48,720
yeah 88 and you say that the entities

704
00:25:52,870 --> 00:25:51,039
that you encounter jack and gina

705
00:25:55,029 --> 00:25:52,880
say that you you can't really understand

706
00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:55,039
what they say 8th or the 18th so it's

707
00:25:57,909 --> 00:25:56,880
like eight it sounds like a t

708
00:26:00,310 --> 00:25:57,919
yeah

709
00:26:02,390 --> 00:26:00,320
so i mean i made it a meme

710
00:26:04,070 --> 00:26:02,400
memes are great by the way i loved the

711
00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:04,080
memes in the subreddit

712
00:26:07,669 --> 00:26:06,080
here's why it's so genius is because i

713
00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:07,679
don't feel like you planned it all man

714
00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:09,360
like it didn't plan it it was stream of

715
00:26:13,590 --> 00:26:11,279
consciousness yeah i figured it out as

716
00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:13,600
it was going there we go

717
00:26:17,830 --> 00:26:16,000
so uh with that said about like the

718
00:26:20,630 --> 00:26:17,840
second part right coming back you know

719
00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:20,640
some odd years later and saying hey not

720
00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:22,240
so much like an apology but it's like

721
00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:25,360
hey i know more yeah now that i didn't

722
00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:26,720
know before because there was a lot of

723
00:26:31,029 --> 00:26:28,640
things that you did say as statements in

724
00:26:33,909 --> 00:26:31,039
that first post of like yeah

725
00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:33,919
yeah and and i know we we chatted about

726
00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:37,039
this off offline but our off air but

727
00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:39,520
um you did mention a couple of things

728
00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:41,200
like if anybody says that they were

729
00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:44,880
abducted by you know mantids or or uh

730
00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:47,760
reptilians they're lying so they're very

731
00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:50,320
abrupt like hey you know if they're

732
00:26:55,029 --> 00:26:52,559
saying this they're lying and i i i'm

733
00:26:56,789 --> 00:26:55,039
not saying this to be controversial i

734
00:26:58,950 --> 00:26:56,799
just feel like it's

735
00:27:01,590 --> 00:26:58,960
it it needed to be brought up because

736
00:27:03,590 --> 00:27:01,600
the second the when you come back a few

737
00:27:06,870 --> 00:27:03,600
years later you're like hey uh i messed

738
00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:06,880
up i know a lot more now and yeah yeah

739
00:27:11,590 --> 00:27:08,960
yeah so so what was what was that

740
00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:11,600
transition like and and so

741
00:27:17,110 --> 00:27:14,240
when i posted that actually it's funny

742
00:27:18,789 --> 00:27:17,120
because i saw it rather be squidding has

743
00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:18,799
a youtube channel and i saw myself and

744
00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:20,960
that's what sparked me to remember

745
00:27:26,310 --> 00:27:24,559
[\h__\h] i wrote this thing uh seven years

746
00:27:27,269 --> 00:27:26,320
ago and

747
00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:27,279
[\h__\h]

748
00:27:29,350 --> 00:27:28,320
uh

749
00:27:31,430 --> 00:27:29,360
so

750
00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:31,440
um what sparked me to come back is i

751
00:27:34,549 --> 00:27:32,960
started pay attention paying attention

752
00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:34,559
to it again because i'm interested in

753
00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:37,600
ufos right it's a persistent interest um

754
00:27:41,190 --> 00:27:39,520
throughout my life by the way

755
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:41,200
just real quick somebody mentioned in

756
00:27:45,029 --> 00:27:43,440
the chat and i i would like to try to

757
00:27:47,269 --> 00:27:45,039
address it somebody mentioned something

758
00:27:48,630 --> 00:27:47,279
about changing dates uh

759
00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:48,640
i think they're probably referencing

760
00:27:52,789 --> 00:27:51,279
june 15th versus like july 12th and 18th

761
00:27:54,230 --> 00:27:52,799
or uh

762
00:27:55,990 --> 00:27:54,240
8th and 18th

763
00:27:57,510 --> 00:27:56,000
um

764
00:27:58,870 --> 00:27:57,520
i'm not 100 sure exactly what they're

765
00:28:01,430 --> 00:27:58,880
getting at but maybe we can address that

766
00:28:03,110 --> 00:28:01,440
at some point just to put a flag on that

767
00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:03,120
say i would like to try to address it as

768
00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:05,440
best i'm able i'm sure he said he has

769
00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:07,600
the receipts he's talking about private

770
00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:09,840
chats that we had and honestly i deleted

771
00:28:13,669 --> 00:28:11,840
him because i mean he he got mad at me

772
00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:13,679
and blocked me and

773
00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:15,440
i don't know why i think it doesn't

774
00:28:19,669 --> 00:28:17,600
matter why but i deleted it so i don't

775
00:28:22,389 --> 00:28:19,679
even i i can't remember exactly what we

776
00:28:24,549 --> 00:28:22,399
talked about but i'm happy to try to

777
00:28:26,549 --> 00:28:24,559
address it if

778
00:28:27,830 --> 00:28:26,559
if we get to it right it's not on my

779
00:28:30,630 --> 00:28:27,840
priority list but i do want to try to

780
00:28:32,549 --> 00:28:30,640
put a flag in it sorry uh so i'm sorry

781
00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:32,559
that was a little bit of an aside there

782
00:28:37,029 --> 00:28:33,840
can we go back i think you had a

783
00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:39,269
uh yeah he was wanting to know how you

784
00:28:43,190 --> 00:28:40,720
came back a couple years later and it

785
00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:43,200
was kind of a different uh kind of a

786
00:28:47,669 --> 00:28:45,600
different style of like hey i gotta kind

787
00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:47,679
of got it wrong here i go it became like

788
00:28:52,470 --> 00:28:50,159
not cool anymore because i wrote the

789
00:28:56,149 --> 00:28:52,480
first story more or less from a

790
00:28:58,470 --> 00:28:56,159
skeptic's perspective right and i

791
00:29:00,389 --> 00:28:58,480
or rather with a skeptic's

792
00:29:01,990 --> 00:29:00,399
point of view i thought it was going to

793
00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:02,000
be [\h__\h] i thought there's no way in

794
00:29:05,269 --> 00:29:03,760
hell i i like the future is going to

795
00:29:07,350 --> 00:29:05,279
turn out how i think it

796
00:29:09,029 --> 00:29:07,360
is right because aliens are [\h__\h] i

797
00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:09,039
know that it's all actually angels and

798
00:29:12,950 --> 00:29:11,200
demons right i had a lot of

799
00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:12,960
preconceptions right

800
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:14,880
and it for me it ruled out a lot of

801
00:29:19,269 --> 00:29:17,200
things when i came back i've been

802
00:29:21,269 --> 00:29:19,279
interested in the ufo topic for my whole

803
00:29:23,269 --> 00:29:21,279
life right that's why i keep up with

804
00:29:25,269 --> 00:29:23,279
it's why i wrote a story about it um and

805
00:29:26,549 --> 00:29:25,279
to be to be clear

806
00:29:28,870 --> 00:29:26,559
abduction was in quotes because i was

807
00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:28,880
never to my knowledge physically

808
00:29:33,990 --> 00:29:32,080
abducted that was an allegory for kind

809
00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:34,000
of my my

810
00:29:37,269 --> 00:29:36,080
just a lot of thoughts um

811
00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:37,279
that's the only way i know how to

812
00:29:40,870 --> 00:29:38,640
express it but i do want to did want to

813
00:29:42,549 --> 00:29:40,880
put that out there uh so i came back and

814
00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:42,559
had a lot more context of like the

815
00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:44,159
government has started releasing these

816
00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:45,840
things right they're starting to say

817
00:29:49,590 --> 00:29:48,000
like hey yeah we actually did some of

818
00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:49,600
this stuff um

819
00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:51,520
like we were actually investigating this

820
00:29:56,149 --> 00:29:52,960
stuff and the more i looked into it the

821
00:29:58,870 --> 00:29:56,159
more i said how do you where is the line

822
00:30:00,870 --> 00:29:58,880
right if if the nuts and bolts are real

823
00:30:02,630 --> 00:30:00,880
um

824
00:30:04,789 --> 00:30:02,640
what if

825
00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:04,799
like what else does that mean is real

826
00:30:09,909 --> 00:30:06,640
that i previously thought was absurd

827
00:30:11,190 --> 00:30:09,919
right and so i had this realization of

828
00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:11,200
that like

829
00:30:14,149 --> 00:30:12,559
um

830
00:30:15,510 --> 00:30:14,159
sorry i'm paying attention to the chat

831
00:30:16,870 --> 00:30:15,520
trying to focus

832
00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:16,880
adhd

833
00:30:19,430 --> 00:30:18,240
um

834
00:30:21,510 --> 00:30:19,440
so

835
00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:21,520
uh

836
00:30:25,510 --> 00:30:23,440
yeah i just had a lot more information

837
00:30:27,510 --> 00:30:25,520
like i said and and my perspective

838
00:30:29,510 --> 00:30:27,520
changed a lot and and i had i felt like

839
00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:29,520
i had to be a lot more open

840
00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:31,600
about what i what i'm

841
00:30:36,149 --> 00:30:34,320
what potential reality is uh i do see

842
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:36,159
matthew right confirmed that and i'm

843
00:30:41,909 --> 00:30:38,240
happy to try to try to explain that the

844
00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:41,919
best i can um but

845
00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:43,600
still on the back burner

846
00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:46,480
um so yeah and the more i looked into it

847
00:30:50,470 --> 00:30:48,720
the more i realized like there's

848
00:30:52,070 --> 00:30:50,480
potentially some very serious things

849
00:30:53,909 --> 00:30:52,080
right and and

850
00:30:56,070 --> 00:30:53,919
it really does take a very serious toll

851
00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:56,080
on people and so

852
00:31:00,950 --> 00:30:58,799
i i was a lot i was just a lot more open

853
00:31:03,029 --> 00:31:00,960
to like

854
00:31:04,470 --> 00:31:03,039
oh well a lot more things you know that

855
00:31:05,590 --> 00:31:04,480
i was previously very close to right so

856
00:31:07,269 --> 00:31:05,600
that's that's kind of yes the

857
00:31:08,389 --> 00:31:07,279
perspective i came back from

858
00:31:09,750 --> 00:31:08,399
um

859
00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:09,760
and once i realized i was throwing away

860
00:31:14,070 --> 00:31:12,240
i was like [\h__\h] i i i remembered i

861
00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:14,080
committed right

862
00:31:18,950 --> 00:31:15,440
yeah

863
00:31:21,350 --> 00:31:18,960
what really just ah dude what really

864
00:31:23,669 --> 00:31:21,360
drew me into the story is how specific a

865
00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:23,679
lot of the um

866
00:31:26,950 --> 00:31:25,600
a lot of the details are

867
00:31:28,870 --> 00:31:26,960
within your first post i mean it's a

868
00:31:30,389 --> 00:31:28,880
very long post i don't want to sit here

869
00:31:32,470 --> 00:31:30,399
and read it to you guys

870
00:31:34,149 --> 00:31:32,480
um but it

871
00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:34,159
it has it

872
00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:36,240
either you've been into this subject a

873
00:31:40,230 --> 00:31:38,640
very long time or you experienced

874
00:31:43,029 --> 00:31:40,240
something i'm not saying i'm not trying

875
00:31:45,110 --> 00:31:43,039
to put a label on you or saying that you

876
00:31:47,909 --> 00:31:45,120
were actually abducted and this is you

877
00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:47,919
know maybe like a reversal thing but

878
00:31:51,909 --> 00:31:48,960
yeah you

879
00:31:54,230 --> 00:31:51,919
you have to have known something because

880
00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:54,240
there's a lot of stuff that joe and i

881
00:31:57,430 --> 00:31:56,399
when we started this show didn't know

882
00:31:59,190 --> 00:31:57,440
half of

883
00:32:00,630 --> 00:31:59,200
the stuff that you put in here and if

884
00:32:02,789 --> 00:32:00,640
you didn't really know about those

885
00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:02,799
details you wouldn't pick up on them

886
00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:03,600
yeah

887
00:32:06,389 --> 00:32:04,480
so

888
00:32:09,509 --> 00:32:06,399
yeah i definitely like i said i have had

889
00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:09,519
an interest in it and so in 2013 when i

890
00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:11,200
first wrote the story i had a heavy

891
00:32:14,149 --> 00:32:12,880
background in charismatic christianity

892
00:32:15,990 --> 00:32:14,159
that's something that you know my

893
00:32:18,070 --> 00:32:16,000
brother and cousin can could confirm

894
00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:18,080
right um those are facts details about

895
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:19,919
my life that give context to the story

896
00:32:23,990 --> 00:32:21,840
um

897
00:32:27,190 --> 00:32:24,000
so i was very much in the charismatic

898
00:32:29,350 --> 00:32:27,200
christianity realms right and

899
00:32:31,990 --> 00:32:29,360
sorry i i i i didn't get myself out of

900
00:32:33,990 --> 00:32:32,000
the rabbit hole right um

901
00:32:37,029 --> 00:32:34,000
wha what is that train track come on

902
00:32:39,029 --> 00:32:37,039
uh so we're talking about like

903
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:39,039
i'm saying you experience something

904
00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:41,519
because if if you haven't like you

905
00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:42,880
wouldn't know those details unless

906
00:32:46,870 --> 00:32:44,720
you've read a lot of books or talked to

907
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:46,880
a bunch of people that are experiencers

908
00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:47,760
oh

909
00:32:50,870 --> 00:32:49,120
well so

910
00:32:53,269 --> 00:32:50,880
so this actually let's let's talk about

911
00:32:54,549 --> 00:32:53,279
this thing from from riot here he he

912
00:32:57,990 --> 00:32:54,559
mentioned

913
00:33:00,230 --> 00:32:58,000
the date and so i so i will say this i

914
00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:00,240
have absolutely seen ufos my dad has

915
00:33:05,590 --> 00:33:02,720
seen ufos my mom has had ghost

916
00:33:07,590 --> 00:33:05,600
encounters on submarines right it's

917
00:33:10,630 --> 00:33:07,600
something that we as a family have been

918
00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:10,640
exposed to right so absolutely i i self

919
00:33:13,990 --> 00:33:12,080
identify as

920
00:33:16,149 --> 00:33:14,000
an experiencer whatever phrase you want

921
00:33:18,230 --> 00:33:16,159
to put it that's part of the reason that

922
00:33:20,549 --> 00:33:18,240
i put abductory abduction in quotes is

923
00:33:23,190 --> 00:33:20,559
because at the time my framework was

924
00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:23,200
alien abductee kind of like

925
00:33:26,470 --> 00:33:24,960
what's going on that's just the language

926
00:33:27,190 --> 00:33:26,480
that i had at the time to express it

927
00:33:29,669 --> 00:33:27,200
right

928
00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:29,679
but um

929
00:33:32,710 --> 00:33:31,600
getting back to the riot thing which i i

930
00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:32,720
think i'm jumping around a little bit

931
00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:34,320
here you'll have to help if i get too

932
00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:36,480
off just let me know i didn't see the

933
00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:38,880
initial comment so i'm unsure what the

934
00:33:43,029 --> 00:33:40,559
question was

935
00:33:45,269 --> 00:33:43,039
joe d what about the date yeah yeah

936
00:33:48,230 --> 00:33:45,279
something about mismatches no it it

937
00:33:50,549 --> 00:33:48,240
literally wasn't anything like

938
00:33:52,789 --> 00:33:50,559
it it just said uh

939
00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:52,799
hey what about the changing dates buddy

940
00:33:56,470 --> 00:33:54,720
sure and then the one below it said i

941
00:33:58,470 --> 00:33:56,480
have the receipts and then they did have

942
00:34:00,549 --> 00:33:58,480
a video it was pretty much

943
00:34:02,470 --> 00:34:00,559
yeah right and and i felt like at some

944
00:34:04,070 --> 00:34:02,480
point i i

945
00:34:05,750 --> 00:34:04,080
when you think of the throw alien story

946
00:34:08,230 --> 00:34:05,760
if you think of it as an encoded message

947
00:34:10,069 --> 00:34:08,240
to myself in the future from the past

948
00:34:11,270 --> 00:34:10,079
that's another way i thought of it right

949
00:34:13,430 --> 00:34:11,280
that's that's right

950
00:34:15,589 --> 00:34:13,440
like a like a crumpled up note that you

951
00:34:17,349 --> 00:34:15,599
throw on the timeline of of time going

952
00:34:18,869 --> 00:34:17,359
through the cosmos and you hit yourself

953
00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:18,879
in the future right it's kind of how i

954
00:34:22,470 --> 00:34:20,800
think of it in a lot of ways i think of

955
00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:22,480
it a lot of ways but that's one of them

956
00:34:28,389 --> 00:34:26,240
um but as i was trying to figure out

957
00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:28,399
more and remember more about what i what

958
00:34:32,230 --> 00:34:30,480
did i think would happen in 2013 versus

959
00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:32,240
now um

960
00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:34,000
when i was trying to line those up i i

961
00:34:39,109 --> 00:34:36,240
it's very possible that i mixed some

962
00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:39,119
events up right memory is fallible

963
00:34:44,869 --> 00:34:41,520
um i'm not ignoring him i don't know why

964
00:34:52,550 --> 00:34:44,879
he's saying that uh i don't know uh

965
00:34:56,069 --> 00:34:54,389
like we should put like a crosshair like

966
00:34:58,550 --> 00:34:56,079
we're playing like like a shoot-'em-up

967
00:35:01,430 --> 00:34:58,560
video video game or i don't know we're

968
00:35:02,470 --> 00:35:01,440
talking about skype that pops up yeah

969
00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:02,480
anyways

970
00:35:07,990 --> 00:35:06,480
um so yeah i i i've definitely seen ufos

971
00:35:09,190 --> 00:35:08,000
i feel like they did telepathically

972
00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:09,200
communicate with me but this is one of

973
00:35:13,430 --> 00:35:11,680
those things that it's my it's i mean

974
00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:13,440
i'm already saying that i didn't tell

975
00:35:15,670 --> 00:35:14,320
the

976
00:35:18,790 --> 00:35:15,680
it was an allegory right which means

977
00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:18,800
it's not the literal truth um

978
00:35:22,390 --> 00:35:21,040
it's an encoded

979
00:35:24,550 --> 00:35:22,400
fact to me

980
00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:24,560
uh sorry my my brother my cousin saying

981
00:35:32,950 --> 00:35:28,240
he's not talking to me so um

982
00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:32,960
uh so um yeah sorry what yes so the the

983
00:35:37,349 --> 00:35:34,800
the encoded fact i i think you're

984
00:35:38,069 --> 00:35:37,359
alluding to a couple of things and you

985
00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:38,079
know

986
00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:39,359
there's a lot of things going on in the

987
00:35:45,270 --> 00:35:42,000
background i think you know for

988
00:35:47,430 --> 00:35:45,280
for the the idea maybe i can use context

989
00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:47,440
clues and kind of if i'm on the right

990
00:35:51,589 --> 00:35:50,320
track let me know but you've you you are

991
00:35:53,349 --> 00:35:51,599
an experiencer you're not saying that

992
00:35:55,109 --> 00:35:53,359
you're not you you're not saying that

993
00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:55,119
you experienced every single detail that

994
00:36:00,230 --> 00:35:58,480
you wrote about but you did experience

995
00:36:03,109 --> 00:36:00,240
something similar that

996
00:36:05,910 --> 00:36:03,119
yes that uh

997
00:36:07,829 --> 00:36:05,920
influenced the the writing so when

998
00:36:10,069 --> 00:36:07,839
people say oh everything's made up it's

999
00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:10,079
fake i say [\h__\h] because of our

1000
00:36:13,829 --> 00:36:11,760
conversations that we've had in the past

1001
00:36:14,710 --> 00:36:13,839
yeah you know the questions that that i

1002
00:36:16,790 --> 00:36:14,720
mean i

1003
00:36:18,230 --> 00:36:16,800
i wish we were able to you know but like

1004
00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:18,240
this is what uh

1005
00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:20,320
i'm this time is four right like sorry

1006
00:36:24,550 --> 00:36:22,880
i'm good so i'm i'm kind of like okay if

1007
00:36:26,950 --> 00:36:24,560
we sit back we take a step back for a

1008
00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:26,960
second yeah what it's sounding like is

1009
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:28,480
like

1010
00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:30,720
you had a lot on your mind and you were

1011
00:36:35,829 --> 00:36:33,520
like the internet what a great place to

1012
00:36:38,150 --> 00:36:35,839
maybe spark some discussion and kind of

1013
00:36:39,990 --> 00:36:38,160
roll these things these ideas and have

1014
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:40,000
it around your head you put it out on

1015
00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:42,240
the internet it kind of starts getting a

1016
00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:44,480
little bit of traction you forget about

1017
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:46,640
it then it comes up later in life and

1018
00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:49,200
you're like oh god damn i committed to

1019
00:36:53,589 --> 00:36:51,520
this like i gotta kind of keep it going

1020
00:36:55,670 --> 00:36:53,599
you know what i'm saying and so yeah we

1021
00:36:57,589 --> 00:36:55,680
keep it going but then also i kind of

1022
00:37:00,150 --> 00:36:57,599
have this thought of like

1023
00:37:02,230 --> 00:37:00,160
you know you being an experiencer um

1024
00:37:04,710 --> 00:37:02,240
your family having experiences with

1025
00:37:07,750 --> 00:37:04,720
stuff and then you talking about you

1026
00:37:08,950 --> 00:37:07,760
just free typing like almost in a sense

1027
00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:08,960
i'm like

1028
00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:11,680
you got some stuff right maybe it wasn't

1029
00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:14,560
all like super accurate but like you got

1030
00:37:17,430 --> 00:37:16,000
some stuff right and it's it's almost

1031
00:37:19,349 --> 00:37:17,440
like

1032
00:37:21,430 --> 00:37:19,359
you said you were conscious for it but

1033
00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:21,440
you know it's almost like

1034
00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:24,160
if we were to go down this path like

1035
00:37:28,069 --> 00:37:26,400
your family being experiencers maybe you

1036
00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:28,079
do have an experience that you don't

1037
00:37:32,310 --> 00:37:29,920
remember

1038
00:37:34,950 --> 00:37:32,320
these thoughts that are going around in

1039
00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:34,960
your head maybe that's maybe if you did

1040
00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:36,640
have an abduction experience maybe

1041
00:37:41,270 --> 00:37:38,720
that's some sort of like uh

1042
00:37:43,589 --> 00:37:41,280
hey type this out like you know like

1043
00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:43,599
yeah not channel but like maybe kind of

1044
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:45,280
like a channel like free writing you

1045
00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:47,280
know how people just like zone out and

1046
00:37:50,470 --> 00:37:48,640
they channel and they start writing all

1047
00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:50,480
kinds of stuff yeah you know but this is

1048
00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:51,520
a little bit different you were

1049
00:37:56,150 --> 00:37:53,280
conscious but you did feel like you were

1050
00:37:58,069 --> 00:37:56,160
kind of just on autopilot going you know

1051
00:37:59,910 --> 00:37:58,079
it's almost like you're receiving some

1052
00:38:01,750 --> 00:37:59,920
sort of information

1053
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:01,760
if we're gonna go down that hole but you

1054
00:38:06,710 --> 00:38:04,640
know and in fact i um

1055
00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:06,720
i will say i wrote this

1056
00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:09,280
like i mentioned a very initially i

1057
00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:11,599
wrote it for myself right to to log my

1058
00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:13,280
thoughts is what i and i just had to get

1059
00:38:16,150 --> 00:38:14,400
it onto the page that's the writer's

1060
00:38:19,670 --> 00:38:16,160
instinct is to get it onto the page

1061
00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:19,680
right right before you lose it um

1062
00:38:22,470 --> 00:38:21,359
and it was a bunch of synchronicities i

1063
00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:22,480
call them synchronicities right

1064
00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:24,000
meaningful coincidences whatever that's

1065
00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:25,520
one of the hard things to deal with

1066
00:38:29,829 --> 00:38:27,040
right because i have frightening

1067
00:38:31,510 --> 00:38:29,839
synchronicities that happen at times um

1068
00:38:33,190 --> 00:38:31,520
but i think diana pasulka is studying

1069
00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:33,200
those things meaningful coincidences

1070
00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:35,440
right this is why i rely on some of the

1071
00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:37,760
science that's happening but um

1072
00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:39,520
sorry i'm cube branches deep let me come

1073
00:38:44,470 --> 00:38:42,000
back uh

1074
00:38:45,829 --> 00:38:44,480
um so

1075
00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:45,839
yeah there was you know all of these

1076
00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:48,640
synchronicities that led me to post it

1077
00:38:53,109 --> 00:38:51,040
right i saw alien abductees of reddit i

1078
00:38:54,710 --> 00:38:53,119
was thinking of somewhere i i i don't

1079
00:38:57,270 --> 00:38:54,720
know if it was a day or two later or

1080
00:38:58,710 --> 00:38:57,280
weeks later or what after the it could

1081
00:39:01,270 --> 00:38:58,720
have been hours later i don't i just

1082
00:39:03,109 --> 00:39:01,280
don't remember but um

1083
00:39:04,630 --> 00:39:03,119
i felt like i needed to put it somewhere

1084
00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:04,640
i wouldn't lose it because i am a very

1085
00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:06,000
forgetful person we talked about the

1086
00:39:09,910 --> 00:39:08,000
memory problems already right which is

1087
00:39:11,829 --> 00:39:09,920
why talking about this story is so hard

1088
00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:11,839
because it relies heavily on memory and

1089
00:39:17,109 --> 00:39:15,280
notes to myself in the future right so

1090
00:39:19,349 --> 00:39:17,119
that's just

1091
00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:19,359
i i just went down another rabbit trail

1092
00:39:22,630 --> 00:39:20,640
um

1093
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:22,640
but yeah so

1094
00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:24,640
the synchronicities are what led me to

1095
00:39:28,870 --> 00:39:26,880
actually post it when i saw alien

1096
00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:28,880
abductees of reddit i wrote my story as

1097
00:39:32,390 --> 00:39:31,440
an alien abductee right um because

1098
00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:32,400
that's the framework that i was

1099
00:39:37,510 --> 00:39:35,440
processing it in at the time and then i

1100
00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:37,520
said what i saw what's your story and

1101
00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:38,880
because i used to be a journalist i

1102
00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:40,800
think in stories right that's that's

1103
00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:42,960
that's how i process things right uh

1104
00:39:46,310 --> 00:39:44,640
that's what i'm interested in movies i'm

1105
00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:46,320
interested in the story right this

1106
00:39:50,310 --> 00:39:47,680
what's the story what's the person

1107
00:39:52,550 --> 00:39:50,320
what's the thing right um

1108
00:39:53,349 --> 00:39:52,560
and so i saw what's your story and i

1109
00:39:55,270 --> 00:39:53,359
said

1110
00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:55,280
okay i'm gonna post it because i don't i

1111
00:39:58,550 --> 00:39:56,880
think it will get archived by the web

1112
00:40:00,310 --> 00:39:58,560
i'll be able to find it easy i won't

1113
00:40:01,589 --> 00:40:00,320
have to worry about hard drives and like

1114
00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:01,599
keeping up with it because i will

1115
00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:03,599
probably forget at some point and

1116
00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:04,960
you know like

1117
00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:08,480
install a new os or something right so

1118
00:40:11,990 --> 00:40:10,720
i had to get it somewhere that it would

1119
00:40:15,109 --> 00:40:12,000
stick and

1120
00:40:16,870 --> 00:40:15,119
i posted it and honestly

1121
00:40:18,870 --> 00:40:16,880
that's when it got a little bit like

1122
00:40:20,069 --> 00:40:18,880
whoa because it like almost immediately

1123
00:40:21,670 --> 00:40:20,079
blew up and i was like oh [\h__\h] there's

1124
00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:21,680
already a couple questions

1125
00:40:24,710 --> 00:40:22,960
and so at that point i kind of changed

1126
00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:24,720
gears right a little bit and i said okay

1127
00:40:29,270 --> 00:40:27,599
if this is a consciousness thing and and

1128
00:40:31,510 --> 00:40:29,280
what does that mean because at this

1129
00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:31,520
point i think it's it's important to say

1130
00:40:36,550 --> 00:40:33,839
that the context is i had been

1131
00:40:38,390 --> 00:40:36,560
processing alien facts right and ego

1132
00:40:40,630 --> 00:40:38,400
swan and remote viewing right i read

1133
00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:40,640
about him first in in this time frame

1134
00:40:44,390 --> 00:40:42,000
and i was kind of coming out of some of

1135
00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:44,400
this charismatic christianity stuff and

1136
00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:46,000
i was seeing a lot of these connections

1137
00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:48,000
and to me patterns are part of the story

1138
00:40:50,309 --> 00:40:48,800
right

1139
00:40:51,510 --> 00:40:50,319
and so i was seeing all of these things

1140
00:40:52,870 --> 00:40:51,520
and i got to thinking maybe there's

1141
00:40:54,309 --> 00:40:52,880
something to it

1142
00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:54,319
right maybe there's more to these

1143
00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:57,200
synchronicities i and people started

1144
00:41:01,270 --> 00:40:58,640
commenting and then i said oh [\h__\h] well

1145
00:41:02,309 --> 00:41:01,280
it's too late to back out now right i i

1146
00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:02,319
don't know how people are going to

1147
00:41:06,150 --> 00:41:03,599
receive this i don't even know if it's

1148
00:41:07,510 --> 00:41:06,160
true i have no idea right because if i

1149
00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:07,520
was talking about the future like i

1150
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:08,960
thought i was

1151
00:41:12,390 --> 00:41:10,160
um

1152
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:12,400
how can you know right because in my in

1153
00:41:16,230 --> 00:41:14,560
my world view at that point

1154
00:41:17,829 --> 00:41:16,240
that was absurd that was crazy people

1155
00:41:20,470 --> 00:41:17,839
talk and that's what gets you locked up

1156
00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:20,480
right um that's what gets you i talk

1157
00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:21,760
about all of this now with my therapist

1158
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:24,160
she hasn't locked me up fortunately um

1159
00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:26,160
she's a wonderful lady and we talk about

1160
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:29,040
this stuff a lot um yeah

1161
00:41:34,150 --> 00:41:31,200
so uh

1162
00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:34,160
yeah uh anyways i think that uh sorry i

1163
00:41:37,589 --> 00:41:36,160
got a little bit down the hole there i i

1164
00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:37,599
think i answered some questions i think

1165
00:41:41,829 --> 00:41:40,000
i got off on a little bit of a tangent

1166
00:41:43,910 --> 00:41:41,839
i'm throwing it back to you no worries

1167
00:41:45,349 --> 00:41:43,920
okay i've got a couple things uh first

1168
00:41:47,109 --> 00:41:45,359
off i think just mentioning the fact

1169
00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:47,119
that you have a therapist is freaking

1170
00:41:50,470 --> 00:41:48,880
awesome i have a therapist i think

1171
00:41:51,270 --> 00:41:50,480
everybody should have somebody to talk

1172
00:41:52,630 --> 00:41:51,280
to

1173
00:41:54,550 --> 00:41:52,640
it doesn't matter if you have a crazy

1174
00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:54,560
story or not i think everybody needs

1175
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:56,160
somebody to talk to if that isn't a

1176
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:58,240
family member or their wife i usually

1177
00:42:02,309 --> 00:41:59,040
just

1178
00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:02,319
jack off eat a sandwich and take a nap i

1179
00:42:07,270 --> 00:42:05,040
mean it's a lot cheaper that works it's

1180
00:42:09,750 --> 00:42:07,280
a lot cheaper than a therapist [\h__\h]

1181
00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:09,760
wake up try again tomorrow you know

1182
00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:11,760
that's hilarious i love how sustainable

1183
00:42:17,270 --> 00:42:14,319
they do white bread goes goes bad very

1184
00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:18,950
i think i did talk about ejaculating in

1185
00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:21,200
a cup for the aliens or whatever because

1186
00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:22,319
that's one of the things they talked

1187
00:42:26,870 --> 00:42:24,720
about right uh these unknown pregnancies

1188
00:42:28,069 --> 00:42:26,880
that's in the news right now right

1189
00:42:30,630 --> 00:42:28,079
and that was one of the things that i

1190
00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:30,640
thought about in the context like damn

1191
00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:32,400
if we came out and said about aliens are

1192
00:42:35,589 --> 00:42:33,760
real and they really do want that [\h__\h]

1193
00:42:37,510 --> 00:42:35,599
you probably have like weirdos they're

1194
00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:37,520
like here let me wank it in front of

1195
00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:38,880
aliens right

1196
00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:40,640
like you we don't know

1197
00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:42,160
that sounds like

1198
00:42:45,990 --> 00:42:44,319
crazy yes though right there there is a

1199
00:42:48,069 --> 00:42:46,000
uh yeah there's a fetish for everything

1200
00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:48,079
it seems like absolutely

1201
00:42:50,630 --> 00:42:49,440
right because i was at this point i

1202
00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:50,640
would stream a consciousness and i was

1203
00:42:57,349 --> 00:42:52,480
like

1204
00:42:59,190 --> 00:42:57,359
what what yeah and then i came in a cup

1205
00:43:01,109 --> 00:42:59,200
of the cup right look this whole story

1206
00:43:03,750 --> 00:43:01,119
is actually about

1207
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:03,760
yeah right gina sounds like a hot babe

1208
00:43:08,790 --> 00:43:06,400
i'm just going to say jesus so

1209
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:08,800
i have thoughts also on why i picked the

1210
00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:10,560
names jack and gina

1211
00:43:14,950 --> 00:43:12,960
i'm not sure

1212
00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:14,960
who don't know about jack and gina are

1213
00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:17,359
the extraterrestrials right

1214
00:43:22,309 --> 00:43:20,560
that that that are of uh talking to me

1215
00:43:24,829 --> 00:43:22,319
yeah they're talking to me yeah yeah

1216
00:43:26,069 --> 00:43:24,839
yeah sorry i just wanted to sit

1217
00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:26,079
yeah uh

1218
00:43:28,710 --> 00:43:27,599
absolutely they are the characters that

1219
00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:28,720
i made up

1220
00:43:32,630 --> 00:43:29,760
by the way

1221
00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:32,640
jack was a pun at the time because i it

1222
00:43:36,950 --> 00:43:35,359
uh people could ask i wanted to put like

1223
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:36,960
plausible deniability into the story

1224
00:43:39,750 --> 00:43:38,160
right which is part of the reason i made

1225
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:39,760
it throw away and left it and said dawg

1226
00:43:44,309 --> 00:43:42,720
don't ever believe me right um

1227
00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:44,319
i wanted some plastic build

1228
00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:45,680
plausible to my

1229
00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:48,480
[\h__\h] i can't talk plausible deniability

1230
00:43:52,950 --> 00:43:51,440
it's a hard said dark it's it's hard uh

1231
00:43:55,430 --> 00:43:52,960
yeah um

1232
00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:55,440
and so i i think i put one of the the

1233
00:43:58,550 --> 00:43:57,200
people as jack because i could always

1234
00:44:00,630 --> 00:43:58,560
use the pun

1235
00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:00,640
i don't know jack you remember that uh

1236
00:44:04,150 --> 00:44:02,560
that game in the 90s you don't know jack

1237
00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:04,160
and it was interesting again right

1238
00:44:08,069 --> 00:44:06,160
because i loved the pun of it and and i

1239
00:44:09,430 --> 00:44:08,079
talked about like uh shakespeare in the

1240
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:09,440
story too because i'm an english major

1241
00:44:15,349 --> 00:44:13,200
right and he's a master of like

1242
00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:15,359
double meaning right and that's like a

1243
00:44:21,030 --> 00:44:16,880
very big thing in shakespearean

1244
00:44:23,990 --> 00:44:21,040
literature uh and so i i loved the pun

1245
00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:24,000
and so i went with it yeah

1246
00:44:27,589 --> 00:44:26,400
yeah i love that there's nowhere to go

1247
00:44:29,190 --> 00:44:27,599
oh

1248
00:44:30,069 --> 00:44:29,200
that's great

1249
00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:30,079
so

1250
00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:34,240
like i mean you say we're

1251
00:44:38,790 --> 00:44:36,720
we're the cause uh

1252
00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:38,800
i just love hearing the description like

1253
00:44:44,790 --> 00:44:40,960
if we could put ourselves in in the

1254
00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:44,800
timeline as if the story was happening

1255
00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:47,040
describe describe that for for for the

1256
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:49,680
listeners so jack and gina to me were

1257
00:44:54,309 --> 00:44:51,760
kind of like they were characters right

1258
00:44:56,950 --> 00:44:54,319
they were they represented to me

1259
00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:56,960
they represented the more intelligent

1260
00:45:03,430 --> 00:45:00,480
universe or god or civilization or the

1261
00:45:05,349 --> 00:45:03,440
folks who had the answers and so this is

1262
00:45:06,710 --> 00:45:05,359
going to sound so

1263
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:06,720
during the question and answer portion

1264
00:45:11,829 --> 00:45:09,040
right i think is when jack and gina came

1265
00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:11,839
up i think i can't remember 100 it's

1266
00:45:15,990 --> 00:45:14,240
been a long time but whatever um in any

1267
00:45:17,270 --> 00:45:16,000
case uh

1268
00:45:19,430 --> 00:45:17,280
jack and gina were kind of like

1269
00:45:22,950 --> 00:45:19,440
characters that i i thought of

1270
00:45:25,670 --> 00:45:22,960
to interpret questions through right uh

1271
00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:25,680
and i talked about they showed me videos

1272
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:26,560
right

1273
00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:27,520
and

1274
00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:30,240
that was something that i thought

1275
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:32,560
so one of my kind of thoughts was like

1276
00:45:36,550 --> 00:45:35,440
if you can predict the future which i've

1277
00:45:38,470 --> 00:45:36,560
talked to again i've talked to my

1278
00:45:39,910 --> 00:45:38,480
therapist about this stuff she

1279
00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:39,920
we've talked about like intuition and

1280
00:45:43,990 --> 00:45:41,920
stuff like this and who knows right we

1281
00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:44,000
don't we don't know it's hard to know i

1282
00:45:48,309 --> 00:45:46,560
don't the best i got for evidence is a

1283
00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:48,319
made-up stupid [\h__\h] story that i

1284
00:45:51,990 --> 00:45:49,359
wrote

1285
00:45:55,910 --> 00:45:52,000
eight years ago right um so i'm doing

1286
00:45:57,430 --> 00:45:55,920
the best i can uh anyways uh

1287
00:46:00,630 --> 00:45:57,440
so they were characters that i kind of

1288
00:46:03,030 --> 00:46:00,640
interpreted myself asking the questions

1289
00:46:05,349 --> 00:46:03,040
of that people were asking me right if

1290
00:46:06,710 --> 00:46:05,359
that makes sense um

1291
00:46:09,430 --> 00:46:06,720
because i i

1292
00:46:11,829 --> 00:46:09,440
i variously interpreted

1293
00:46:13,349 --> 00:46:11,839
the the

1294
00:46:14,790 --> 00:46:13,359
that stuff

1295
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:14,800
as

1296
00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:19,760
self right like if time is non-linear

1297
00:46:23,750 --> 00:46:21,440
can you ask questions of yourself in the

1298
00:46:25,109 --> 00:46:23,760
future and get answers i also thought of

1299
00:46:26,710 --> 00:46:25,119
it as

1300
00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:26,720
asking like a

1301
00:46:31,109 --> 00:46:29,520
unified consciousness of the human race

1302
00:46:33,109 --> 00:46:31,119
or asking

1303
00:46:34,950 --> 00:46:33,119
higher beings that experience time at a

1304
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:34,960
different time dilation if you

1305
00:46:38,950 --> 00:46:36,640
communicate telepathically with them by

1306
00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:38,960
the way in my sightings that i've had in

1307
00:46:42,630 --> 00:46:40,560
the last year i

1308
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:42,640
firmly believe and i've talked to my

1309
00:46:46,150 --> 00:46:44,560
therapist about it that these things

1310
00:46:47,589 --> 00:46:46,160
communicate telepathically because of a

1311
00:46:50,150 --> 00:46:47,599
couple things that i'm more than happy

1312
00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:50,160
to talk about again it's just anecdotes

1313
00:46:53,030 --> 00:46:51,680
take it for what it's worth with a bowl

1314
00:46:54,309 --> 00:46:53,040
of salt that was always part of the

1315
00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:54,319
allegory right

1316
00:46:58,790 --> 00:46:57,520
take it with a grain of salt um so sorry

1317
00:46:59,910 --> 00:46:58,800
that was the aside

1318
00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:59,920
back

1319
00:47:01,829 --> 00:47:01,040
yeah right

1320
00:47:02,470 --> 00:47:01,839
i was

1321
00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:02,480
like

1322
00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:03,680
there's a cup we were talking about

1323
00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:06,160
earlier yeah the fellowship the people

1324
00:47:09,510 --> 00:47:07,920
people loved the bowl of salt which i

1325
00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:09,520
was very happy about

1326
00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:11,839
i have a question about the telepathy

1327
00:47:15,589 --> 00:47:14,480
thing and this is this is this is uh you

1328
00:47:18,150 --> 00:47:15,599
know

1329
00:47:20,069 --> 00:47:18,160
i'm just guessing here

1330
00:47:22,829 --> 00:47:20,079
if if these things

1331
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:22,839
if they are so advanced do you think

1332
00:47:26,950 --> 00:47:24,960
possibly um

1333
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:26,960
we're talking about the gary nolan stuff

1334
00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:28,800
the consciousness stuff

1335
00:47:34,309 --> 00:47:30,800
do you think that this telepathic

1336
00:47:36,630 --> 00:47:34,319
communication could possibly be

1337
00:47:39,349 --> 00:47:36,640
just a really

1338
00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:39,359
highly advanced form of just

1339
00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:41,920
communication technology that they're

1340
00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:44,880
using that that is possibly you know

1341
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:47,760
just connecting with our own brain waves

1342
00:47:53,190 --> 00:47:50,640
uh you know stuff like that

1343
00:47:55,589 --> 00:47:53,200
we have things today that we can make us

1344
00:47:56,470 --> 00:47:55,599
see and hear stuff yes

1345
00:47:58,230 --> 00:47:56,480
yes

1346
00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:58,240
military has technology to do that

1347
00:48:02,150 --> 00:48:00,400
absolutely they can make you hear remote

1348
00:48:03,349 --> 00:48:02,160
voices with our own technology that we

1349
00:48:04,150 --> 00:48:03,359
have today

1350
00:48:07,670 --> 00:48:04,160
so

1351
00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:07,680
this sheer statistics say that there's

1352
00:48:10,950 --> 00:48:09,520
that we're not alone everything we've

1353
00:48:12,549 --> 00:48:10,960
thought about ourselves in all of

1354
00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:12,559
history has been wrong right we were not

1355
00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:14,319
the center of the solar system or the

1356
00:48:19,750 --> 00:48:17,040
universe we're not we're likely not the

1357
00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:19,760
only intelligent species here right just

1358
00:48:23,670 --> 00:48:21,520
from the pure statistics of it and if

1359
00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:23,680
that's true we're relatively late in the

1360
00:48:25,670 --> 00:48:24,640
game

1361
00:48:27,430 --> 00:48:25,680
so

1362
00:48:29,349 --> 00:48:27,440
that means this

1363
00:48:31,030 --> 00:48:29,359
i mean i'm not a statistician

1364
00:48:32,829 --> 00:48:31,040
i took like one statistics class in

1365
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:32,839
college because i was an english major

1366
00:48:37,109 --> 00:48:35,680
uh but like just thinking through it

1367
00:48:38,790 --> 00:48:37,119
statistically

1368
00:48:41,190 --> 00:48:38,800
it makes sense that there are others

1369
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:41,200
that are more advanced than us and if we

1370
00:48:44,069 --> 00:48:42,480
one of the things that the government

1371
00:48:46,150 --> 00:48:44,079
ufo reports say is that they are able to

1372
00:48:48,230 --> 00:48:46,160
remotely target and shut off

1373
00:48:50,710 --> 00:48:48,240
fighter jet targeting systems that means

1374
00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:50,720
they're able to remotely interrupt the

1375
00:48:55,829 --> 00:48:53,760
flow of electrons within our circuitry

1376
00:48:58,230 --> 00:48:55,839
if they can do that

1377
00:49:00,069 --> 00:48:58,240
to fighter jets why can they not affect

1378
00:49:03,190 --> 00:49:00,079
the neurons in our brains right which

1379
00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:03,200
are just electrical

1380
00:49:06,870 --> 00:49:05,280
processes right yeah yeah that's what it

1381
00:49:09,190 --> 00:49:06,880
is i don't know and again i'm not a

1382
00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:09,200
physicist i don't i don't i wanna i'm

1383
00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:10,800
thinking about going to school again for

1384
00:49:15,829 --> 00:49:14,240
physics i would love to but

1385
00:49:17,430 --> 00:49:15,839
maybe that's a bad comparison but that's

1386
00:49:19,349 --> 00:49:17,440
logically where i go with this and kind

1387
00:49:21,430 --> 00:49:19,359
of all of that informed all of these

1388
00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:21,440
thoughts right and so then what what

1389
00:49:25,829 --> 00:49:24,160
happens is for me this was the part that

1390
00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:25,839
i struggled with all of the most out of

1391
00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:27,040
all of everything right i mentioned my

1392
00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:29,200
detachment from reality if they can

1393
00:49:33,109 --> 00:49:31,040
interrupt the flow of electrons in your

1394
00:49:35,349 --> 00:49:33,119
brain if they can invade your mind the

1395
00:49:37,430 --> 00:49:35,359
most sacrosanct place that you should

1396
00:49:39,109 --> 00:49:37,440
have right i think therefore i am that's

1397
00:49:42,069 --> 00:49:39,119
your sacred place

1398
00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:42,079
if they can go there and play around

1399
00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:43,920
they can construct an entire reality

1400
00:49:47,750 --> 00:49:45,440
around you right

1401
00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:47,760
and so that's i literally talked with my

1402
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:50,160
therapist about this this week i said

1403
00:49:52,710 --> 00:49:51,760
how do i know the desk in front of me is

1404
00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:52,720
real

1405
00:49:57,190 --> 00:49:54,960
if a sufficiently advanced civilization

1406
00:49:58,309 --> 00:49:57,200
exists and has advanced hologram

1407
00:50:00,710 --> 00:49:58,319
technology which i talked about in

1408
00:50:02,150 --> 00:50:00,720
throwaway

1409
00:50:04,230 --> 00:50:02,160
how can we tell the difference right if

1410
00:50:05,910 --> 00:50:04,240
they can remotely project voices if they

1411
00:50:08,150 --> 00:50:05,920
can create a hologram we're very close

1412
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:08,160
to creating physical holograms now as

1413
00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:09,280
humans

1414
00:50:13,670 --> 00:50:10,880
if they're more advanced than us they

1415
00:50:15,589 --> 00:50:13,680
can create an a facsimile replica of

1416
00:50:16,549 --> 00:50:15,599
anything you can imagine and make it

1417
00:50:20,069 --> 00:50:16,559
appear as

1418
00:50:22,549 --> 00:50:20,079
as without any ability to distinguish

1419
00:50:23,990 --> 00:50:22,559
reality from non-reality right

1420
00:50:26,150 --> 00:50:24,000
that's the context that i wrote throw

1421
00:50:27,910 --> 00:50:26,160
away in and that's all of these thoughts

1422
00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:27,920
and they came back to me this summer

1423
00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:29,920
tenfold

1424
00:50:34,390 --> 00:50:31,920
informed that first line throw away

1425
00:50:37,190 --> 00:50:34,400
account because i'm afraid right what

1426
00:50:40,230 --> 00:50:37,200
does this mean is simulation theory yes

1427
00:50:43,030 --> 00:50:40,240
aaron's talking about it uh aaron

1428
00:50:44,790 --> 00:50:43,040
i love aaron uh holographic theory i

1429
00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:44,800
mentioned the matrix right in the throw

1430
00:50:48,309 --> 00:50:46,720
alien story actually fun fact my cousin

1431
00:50:50,470 --> 00:50:48,319
in here uh

1432
00:50:52,710 --> 00:50:50,480
introduced me to the matrix i avoided

1433
00:50:55,589 --> 00:50:52,720
watching it forever

1434
00:50:57,109 --> 00:50:55,599
uh until many years afterwards he had a

1435
00:50:58,630 --> 00:50:57,119
dvd and i watched it like 12 times in a

1436
00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:58,640
single week he could tell you if that's

1437
00:51:02,870 --> 00:51:00,720
true or not it's true so i love the

1438
00:51:04,790 --> 00:51:02,880
matrix but it's all about simulation

1439
00:51:06,710 --> 00:51:04,800
theory how do you distinguish right and

1440
00:51:09,990 --> 00:51:06,720
so the thing for me

1441
00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:10,000
and that i always came back to is i

1442
00:51:15,750 --> 00:51:13,440
think therefore i am right

1443
00:51:17,430 --> 00:51:15,760
i can't know whether this desk is in

1444
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:17,440
front of me if it's a hologram it's a

1445
00:51:20,950 --> 00:51:19,440
hologram it's plato's cave i mentioned

1446
00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:20,960
this with my therapist literally this

1447
00:51:25,750 --> 00:51:23,920
monday it's plato's cave what do you

1448
00:51:27,990 --> 00:51:25,760
know how do you distinguish from reality

1449
00:51:30,069 --> 00:51:28,000
from unreality the thing she said to me

1450
00:51:31,990 --> 00:51:30,079
is science is about predictability she

1451
00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:32,000
said if you could if you know you can by

1452
00:51:37,349 --> 00:51:33,440
the way this is one of my fan arts from

1453
00:51:40,630 --> 00:51:37,359
thriller alien i thought

1454
00:51:43,030 --> 00:51:40,640
it's beautiful uh it was dorothy parker

1455
00:51:45,430 --> 00:51:43,040
i i am absolutely in love with this art

1456
00:51:48,069 --> 00:51:45,440
oh my god that's awesome

1457
00:51:50,150 --> 00:51:48,079
asking quizzically about humans right

1458
00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:50,160
what is this a religion what is this why

1459
00:51:54,230 --> 00:51:52,000
do you do these things

1460
00:51:56,710 --> 00:51:54,240
is it an idol right

1461
00:51:57,670 --> 00:51:56,720
it's dude that dovetail okay i want you

1462
00:51:59,990 --> 00:51:57,680
all right

1463
00:52:02,069 --> 00:52:00,000
dude i want you to complete your well i

1464
00:52:05,190 --> 00:52:02,079
i probably just ruined it i was not

1465
00:52:12,470 --> 00:52:09,430
dude as a fellow uh adhd person uh yeah

1466
00:52:14,150 --> 00:52:12,480
i i i realize it is over but okay so you

1467
00:52:15,750 --> 00:52:14,160
guys you guys needed more ass whoopings

1468
00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:15,760
when i was kids

1469
00:52:20,710 --> 00:52:18,480
that's what i had

1470
00:52:21,980 --> 00:52:20,720
100 y'all needed more ass whoops you

1471
00:52:23,910 --> 00:52:21,990
ought to pay attention

1472
00:52:26,069 --> 00:52:23,920
[Music]

1473
00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:26,079
oh man

1474
00:52:30,309 --> 00:52:28,000
fun fact i used to at one time when my

1475
00:52:31,589 --> 00:52:30,319
dad paddled me after well i don't know i

1476
00:52:33,990 --> 00:52:31,599
had acted up

1477
00:52:36,150 --> 00:52:34,000
and i stuffed the bandana in my pants so

1478
00:52:40,549 --> 00:52:36,160
it wouldn't hurt as bad i totally got

1479
00:52:44,470 --> 00:52:41,990
i think the gummies have really settled

1480
00:52:46,150 --> 00:52:44,480
in now by the way my brother and i would

1481
00:52:47,910 --> 00:52:46,160
like really we would like wink at each

1482
00:52:49,670 --> 00:52:47,920
other like right really shower down on

1483
00:52:51,030 --> 00:52:49,680
it when mom spanks us and like because

1484
00:52:53,190 --> 00:52:51,040
so that like

1485
00:52:55,030 --> 00:52:53,200
like mom didn't have to like spank us so

1486
00:52:56,710 --> 00:52:55,040
hard uh yeah

1487
00:53:07,670 --> 00:52:56,720
all right or really play it up this time

1488
00:53:10,790 --> 00:53:09,430
yeah i've got a kid man i worry about

1489
00:53:12,549 --> 00:53:10,800
what kind of what kind of father i'm

1490
00:53:14,390 --> 00:53:12,559
gonna be honestly that's another thing

1491
00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:14,400
by the way so one of the hard things

1492
00:53:17,670 --> 00:53:15,839
about me coming out and talking about

1493
00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:17,680
this story is i recognize i'm very fully

1494
00:53:22,069 --> 00:53:19,920
aware of how batshit insane it sounds

1495
00:53:23,990 --> 00:53:22,079
right and to be frankly honest with you

1496
00:53:25,750 --> 00:53:24,000
if i were anybody else i wouldn't

1497
00:53:28,710 --> 00:53:25,760
believe me because i have a hard time

1498
00:53:31,109 --> 00:53:28,720
believing and i went through it right so

1499
00:53:34,150 --> 00:53:31,119
uh all of that stuff right it's a crazy

1500
00:53:35,829 --> 00:53:34,160
story the internet's crazy i have i've

1501
00:53:37,589 --> 00:53:35,839
been harassed out of jobs in the past

1502
00:53:39,829 --> 00:53:37,599
right so all i've said i'm afraid of

1503
00:53:40,829 --> 00:53:39,839
humans not aliens right i said it in the

1504
00:53:44,630 --> 00:53:40,839
story

1505
00:53:46,630 --> 00:53:44,640
um so i have a family now that i did not

1506
00:53:48,309 --> 00:53:46,640
in 2013. so

1507
00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:48,319
sorry i might get emotional

1508
00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:49,680
that is that's something i have to think

1509
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:51,760
about

1510
00:53:56,549 --> 00:53:54,640
yeah that's that's a huge huge well the

1511
00:53:59,270 --> 00:53:56,559
first thing is is that's a very deep

1512
00:54:01,349 --> 00:53:59,280
quote from i i am i'm afraid of humans

1513
00:54:03,430 --> 00:54:01,359
not aliens like that's if if you don't

1514
00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:03,440
know the story very well

1515
00:54:06,870 --> 00:54:05,200
uh that's that's a huge part of it

1516
00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:06,880
because that's that's that's something

1517
00:54:12,150 --> 00:54:08,880
that hit me like really really deeply

1518
00:54:13,829 --> 00:54:12,160
you have it in my notes yeah because uh

1519
00:54:16,470 --> 00:54:13,839
an individual that's going through

1520
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:16,480
something as transformative

1521
00:54:20,549 --> 00:54:18,240
as

1522
00:54:21,990 --> 00:54:20,559
i'm i'm gonna just just i'm just gonna

1523
00:54:24,150 --> 00:54:22,000
remain saying that you are an

1524
00:54:25,589 --> 00:54:24,160
experiencer and i'm just sure i i mean

1525
00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:25,599
that's how i identify

1526
00:54:29,349 --> 00:54:27,680
people can quibble with it they can i

1527
00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:29,359
mean the skeptics will say there's no

1528
00:54:33,510 --> 00:54:30,880
such thing so you can't be an

1529
00:54:35,589 --> 00:54:33,520
experiencer that's fine people are

1530
00:54:37,990 --> 00:54:35,599
entitled to their opinions right and i'm

1531
00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:38,000
fully okay with that the thing for me is

1532
00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:40,720
be respectful right and and that's

1533
00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:42,640
more than anything else right we can

1534
00:54:46,870 --> 00:54:44,480
have the discussion the skeptics can be

1535
00:54:48,789 --> 00:54:46,880
skeptics the believers can be believers

1536
00:54:49,750 --> 00:54:48,799
right but let's do it with respect right

1537
00:54:52,309 --> 00:54:49,760
let's let's

1538
00:54:54,789 --> 00:54:52,319
seriously yeah and we see that on ufo

1539
00:54:57,190 --> 00:54:54,799
twitter the need for that right

1540
00:54:58,309 --> 00:54:57,200
yeah absolutely absolutely like

1541
00:55:00,470 --> 00:54:58,319
absolutely

1542
00:55:02,470 --> 00:55:00,480
people how you would like to be treated

1543
00:55:03,990 --> 00:55:02,480
absolutely cool right it would be nice i

1544
00:55:05,270 --> 00:55:04,000
think somebody important said that and

1545
00:55:07,270 --> 00:55:05,280
there was a bunch of

1546
00:55:10,069 --> 00:55:07,280
there's a big book written about it

1547
00:55:12,230 --> 00:55:10,079
yeah uh maybe they were onto something

1548
00:55:13,829 --> 00:55:12,240
maybe might have been on to something

1549
00:55:16,069 --> 00:55:13,839
and if you think about it that's common

1550
00:55:18,630 --> 00:55:16,079
everywhere every

1551
00:55:20,710 --> 00:55:18,640
it's it's across every religion it's

1552
00:55:23,109 --> 00:55:20,720
across our secular life it's across our

1553
00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:23,119
atheistic life right it's it's

1554
00:55:26,069 --> 00:55:24,960
everywhere so why are we not [\h__\h]

1555
00:55:28,950 --> 00:55:26,079
getting it

1556
00:55:30,309 --> 00:55:28,960
right it's like

1557
00:55:32,789 --> 00:55:30,319
it's it's

1558
00:55:34,710 --> 00:55:32,799
we all are trying to make it through

1559
00:55:36,390 --> 00:55:34,720
life right um

1560
00:55:37,829 --> 00:55:36,400
and it's hard already

1561
00:55:39,030 --> 00:55:37,839
we're trying to figure this stuff out

1562
00:55:41,589 --> 00:55:39,040
we're on the verge of understanding

1563
00:55:43,430 --> 00:55:41,599
something potentially very great right

1564
00:55:44,789 --> 00:55:43,440
i will get emotional so let's just be

1565
00:55:46,829 --> 00:55:44,799
nice to each other right we see what's

1566
00:55:49,589 --> 00:55:46,839
happening in ukraine what's wrong with

1567
00:55:53,829 --> 00:55:49,599
us so yeah that's where i'm at i don't

1568
00:55:59,510 --> 00:55:56,390
[\h__\h] cheers to that we're trying our

1569
00:56:00,789 --> 00:55:59,520
best man i don't even like those guys

1570
00:56:02,230 --> 00:56:00,799
i don't either

1571
00:56:03,750 --> 00:56:02,240
by the way somebody else is going to

1572
00:56:05,190 --> 00:56:03,760
offer anything to to verify you store

1573
00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:05,200
whaling uh

1574
00:56:07,589 --> 00:56:06,240
please

1575
00:56:09,910 --> 00:56:07,599
do that

1576
00:56:11,750 --> 00:56:09,920
let's do it um so one of the things i

1577
00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:11,760
mentioned the tooth right that's a

1578
00:56:15,750 --> 00:56:13,440
that's an actual fact in the story

1579
00:56:18,390 --> 00:56:15,760
that's that's here um one of the things

1580
00:56:20,309 --> 00:56:18,400
i mentioned is my niece

1581
00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:20,319
okay i put her in the story as a certain

1582
00:56:24,470 --> 00:56:23,040
character and i would like for uh here

1583
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:24,480
i'm going to pull it up these are my my

1584
00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:25,920
cousins they can either

1585
00:56:30,390 --> 00:56:28,480
see them in the chat they can list if

1586
00:56:33,109 --> 00:56:30,400
they want to list our our

1587
00:56:34,870 --> 00:56:33,119
this the daughters of our grandma

1588
00:56:36,390 --> 00:56:34,880
in order from age from oldest to

1589
00:56:37,750 --> 00:56:36,400
youngest right they're going to see the

1590
00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:37,760
character's name

1591
00:56:40,950 --> 00:56:38,960
they don't know i don't think they know

1592
00:56:43,030 --> 00:56:40,960
what the character's name is right uh

1593
00:56:44,390 --> 00:56:43,040
and this relies on of course trust that

1594
00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:44,400
they're like we're not bullshitting this

1595
00:56:47,430 --> 00:56:45,760
right that i didn't get a couple of guys

1596
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:47,440
together and say hey let's go yank some

1597
00:56:52,390 --> 00:56:49,920
chains right uh

1598
00:56:55,190 --> 00:56:52,400
so it relies on again witness testimony

1599
00:57:00,150 --> 00:56:58,870
this is witness testimony right so uh

1600
00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:00,160
some of the facts about my life that i

1601
00:57:05,349 --> 00:57:03,599
encoded into the story uh uh uh so yeah

1602
00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:05,359
so my brother and cousin if you could

1603
00:57:09,349 --> 00:57:07,680
just list off the the name of our ants

1604
00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:09,359
right that would be great um and then

1605
00:57:14,710 --> 00:57:11,680
i've got another one that i will do the

1606
00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:14,720
age of my niece and the story is the ant

1607
00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:15,520
right

1608
00:57:18,630 --> 00:57:17,760
um

1609
00:57:20,069 --> 00:57:18,640
uh

1610
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:20,079
and that's a good point experiences are

1611
00:57:23,910 --> 00:57:22,240
experiences right i have no idea whether

1612
00:57:25,829 --> 00:57:23,920
any of this shit's right or wrong or

1613
00:57:27,990 --> 00:57:25,839
whatever this was my experience and it

1614
00:57:29,829 --> 00:57:28,000
meant a lot to me and so i cannot help

1615
00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:29,839
but talk about it because it to me it

1616
00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:31,920
speaks of a grand mystery that i don't

1617
00:57:35,670 --> 00:57:33,520
understand and i have a true you know i

1618
00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:35,680
i have a compulsion to like

1619
00:57:38,870 --> 00:57:37,680
a drive to find those things out right

1620
00:57:40,069 --> 00:57:38,880
but um

1621
00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:40,079
these are experiences that i don't

1622
00:57:43,670 --> 00:57:41,200
understand and i feel like it is

1623
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:43,680
important to talk about them uh to help

1624
00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:45,359
help others to realize that it's okay to

1625
00:57:49,829 --> 00:57:47,440
talk about these things it's not crazy

1626
00:57:52,950 --> 00:57:49,839
right yeah um but anyways

1627
00:57:57,510 --> 00:57:52,960
uh change after it changed after uh uh a

1628
00:58:00,630 --> 00:57:57,520
t really i mean yeah uh it was like

1629
00:58:03,910 --> 00:58:00,640
i'm i'm just buying time for those names

1630
00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:03,920
but like the yeah first names were not

1631
00:58:09,430 --> 00:58:06,160
yeah but uh the

1632
00:58:12,549 --> 00:58:09,440
the timeline that you give july 18th or

1633
00:58:14,470 --> 00:58:12,559
or 8th which is july july 8th you did

1634
00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:14,480
post about it and you're like hey well

1635
00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:16,000
nothing's going to happen so hey i'll

1636
00:58:19,030 --> 00:58:17,200
see you on the

1637
00:58:21,430 --> 00:58:19,040
well i won't see you guys on the 18th

1638
00:58:22,870 --> 00:58:21,440
because i'll be gone right yeah maybe i

1639
00:58:25,270 --> 00:58:22,880
i really thought that i might get

1640
00:58:29,030 --> 00:58:25,280
abducted i i was terrified on at they

1641
00:58:30,789 --> 00:58:29,040
had that national ufo ufo night out um

1642
00:58:32,309 --> 00:58:30,799
and that scared the piss out of me right

1643
00:58:34,470 --> 00:58:32,319
if there's something to consciousness

1644
00:58:36,309 --> 00:58:34,480
and they manifest aliens i i don't know

1645
00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:36,319
if that's possible i have no idea but

1646
00:58:41,030 --> 00:58:38,880
it's possible as a possibility to me and

1647
00:58:43,990 --> 00:58:41,040
that terrified me right

1648
00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:44,000
um and so i had no idea i was terrified

1649
00:58:47,829 --> 00:58:46,240
i wanted out i was like i opt out i

1650
00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:47,839
don't want to come back i don't want to

1651
00:58:51,030 --> 00:58:49,680
be abducted right that was

1652
00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:51,040
uh

1653
00:58:58,150 --> 00:58:57,190
well dude i mean you know a lot of

1654
00:58:59,589 --> 00:58:58,160
people

1655
00:59:01,270 --> 00:58:59,599
uh

1656
00:59:02,549 --> 00:59:01,280
you know not knowing if you're one of

1657
00:59:05,270 --> 00:59:02,559
them you know a lot of

1658
00:59:07,990 --> 00:59:05,280
a lot of abductees and and experiences i

1659
00:59:09,829 --> 00:59:08,000
mean i think there's like kind of a uh

1660
00:59:12,230 --> 00:59:09,839
a difference we can make there right

1661
00:59:14,470 --> 00:59:12,240
there's people who have experiences

1662
00:59:16,710 --> 00:59:14,480
um and people who have been abducted are

1663
00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:16,720
obviously in that experience or category

1664
00:59:21,430 --> 00:59:18,559
but then that's kind of when we take

1665
00:59:23,430 --> 00:59:21,440
that and say abductee right there's you

1666
00:59:25,670 --> 00:59:23,440
know me and ben have seen [\h__\h] right

1667
00:59:28,789 --> 00:59:25,680
that's experiences right

1668
00:59:31,670 --> 00:59:28,799
i think there's levels to it dalton

1669
00:59:33,349 --> 00:59:31,680
sorry he misspelled your tonight wait

1670
00:59:37,190 --> 00:59:33,359
should i put it back up

1671
00:59:39,829 --> 00:59:37,200
what uh yeah diane diane so do do mike

1672
00:59:41,109 --> 00:59:39,839
papa diane is right

1673
00:59:46,069 --> 00:59:41,119
come on

1674
00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:46,079
that right and yeah so diane was the the

1675
00:59:49,829 --> 00:59:47,920
name of the niece right and the story i

1676
00:59:53,589 --> 00:59:49,839
said she was for

1677
00:59:54,470 --> 00:59:53,599
but i want uh i'd like for brother

1678
00:59:55,750 --> 00:59:54,480
uh

1679
00:59:57,430 --> 00:59:55,760
to say

1680
00:59:58,710 --> 00:59:57,440
was that right or wrong oh i gotta write

1681
00:59:59,750 --> 00:59:58,720
the answer down sorry i gotta write the

1682
01:00:01,750 --> 00:59:59,760
answer down that was part of the game

1683
01:00:03,270 --> 01:00:01,760
and i messed it up i know i i tried to

1684
01:00:04,630 --> 01:00:03,280
like start the game earlier i just

1685
01:00:06,069 --> 01:00:04,640
didn't know the rule i

1686
01:00:07,750 --> 01:00:06,079
i didn't know the rules either i forgot

1687
01:00:08,870 --> 01:00:07,760
them i forget things i told you my

1688
01:00:12,549 --> 01:00:08,880
memory man

1689
01:00:14,230 --> 01:00:12,559
um so um brother the age before you

1690
01:00:15,589 --> 01:00:14,240
answer i'm gonna i'm i'm gonna write it

1691
01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:15,599
this empty sheet right so you guys can

1692
01:00:18,710 --> 01:00:17,040
see there's a little scribble right

1693
01:00:21,750 --> 01:00:18,720
empty sheet mtc it's like a magic trick

1694
01:00:24,950 --> 01:00:23,910
and all right well you can write it on

1695
01:00:26,710 --> 01:00:24,960
here

1696
01:00:29,030 --> 01:00:26,720
with your hands well this is the paper

1697
01:00:30,309 --> 01:00:29,040
you recognize this right so um

1698
01:00:32,309 --> 01:00:30,319
i'm going to write the answer down on

1699
01:00:34,549 --> 01:00:32,319
here how old she really was when i wrote

1700
01:00:35,910 --> 01:00:34,559
the story which was november

1701
01:00:38,150 --> 01:00:35,920
18th

1702
01:00:39,190 --> 01:00:38,160
2013. you know the age give me a second

1703
01:00:41,109 --> 01:00:39,200
i'm going to write this down i'm going

1704
01:00:42,390 --> 01:00:41,119
to fold it up

1705
01:00:44,549 --> 01:00:42,400
because i said she was a different age

1706
01:00:48,230 --> 01:00:44,559
in the story but it was off

1707
01:00:51,910 --> 01:00:50,470
it feels like it's so cheesy right but

1708
01:00:54,150 --> 01:00:51,920
here's whatever this is the answer right

1709
01:00:55,349 --> 01:00:54,160
did he say it yet okay yeah brother go

1710
01:00:57,190 --> 01:00:55,359
ahead

1711
01:00:59,670 --> 01:00:57,200
closer to the closer to the camera let's

1712
01:01:01,750 --> 01:00:59,680
see sorry so it's oh [\h__\h] he can see

1713
01:01:05,109 --> 01:01:01,760
it's folded up right now uh i will wait

1714
01:01:11,670 --> 01:01:05,910
oh

1715
01:01:13,670 --> 01:01:11,680
were all right brother are you there

1716
01:01:16,069 --> 01:01:13,680
i didn't see him if he said it

1717
01:01:17,670 --> 01:01:16,079
2013 yes correct november

1718
01:01:19,670 --> 01:01:17,680
is either 13th or 18th but that doesn't

1719
01:01:21,829 --> 01:01:19,680
matter because november let's say 13th

1720
01:01:23,750 --> 01:01:21,839
of 2013 you know how old she was in real

1721
01:01:25,109 --> 01:01:23,760
life

1722
01:01:26,630 --> 01:01:25,119
right these are just part of the the

1723
01:01:28,710 --> 01:01:26,640
silly details that i encoded because

1724
01:01:31,589 --> 01:01:28,720
like i said the proof is the story

1725
01:01:34,309 --> 01:01:31,599
likewise the details of my life

1726
01:01:36,069 --> 01:01:34,319
are the key to the encoded story

1727
01:01:37,750 --> 01:01:36,079
um

1728
01:01:39,990 --> 01:01:37,760
and so these are those details right

1729
01:01:42,069 --> 01:01:40,000
that i encoded she him uh mike papa said

1730
01:01:44,470 --> 01:01:42,079
she just turned five what's my number

1731
01:01:47,510 --> 01:01:44,480
it's like a magic trick five

1732
01:01:48,789 --> 01:01:47,520
wait five years old irl she just turned

1733
01:01:50,069 --> 01:01:48,799
five so

1734
01:01:53,030 --> 01:01:50,079
um

1735
01:01:54,710 --> 01:01:53,040
uh another one the jobs i mentioned the

1736
01:01:56,630 --> 01:01:54,720
jobs in the story

1737
01:01:58,870 --> 01:01:56,640
story online chatter can make these

1738
01:02:01,349 --> 01:01:58,880
steve long is right and that's the

1739
01:02:03,510 --> 01:02:01,359
that's part of the hard part about this

1740
01:02:04,309 --> 01:02:03,520
if enough coincidences there are there

1741
01:02:06,950 --> 01:02:04,319
it

1742
01:02:08,390 --> 01:02:06,960
defies logic though that statistically

1743
01:02:09,990 --> 01:02:08,400
you're talking about

1744
01:02:11,510 --> 01:02:10,000
very silly things right

1745
01:02:15,510 --> 01:02:11,520
uh

1746
01:02:16,390 --> 01:02:15,520
steve long said respectfully

1747
01:02:18,950 --> 01:02:16,400
thank you

1748
01:02:21,270 --> 01:02:18,960
uh anyone familiar

1749
01:02:25,029 --> 01:02:21,280
with the taa which means

1750
01:02:27,109 --> 01:02:25,039
away alien story and online chatter can

1751
01:02:29,190 --> 01:02:27,119
make these same allegations so that's

1752
01:02:32,069 --> 01:02:29,200
very very right

1753
01:02:35,270 --> 01:02:32,079
it's very possible that i have dug

1754
01:02:38,870 --> 01:02:35,280
through all of the details of throwaway

1755
01:02:40,390 --> 01:02:38,880
alien right and crafted an incredibly

1756
01:02:41,910 --> 01:02:40,400
compelling story to the point that i

1757
01:02:42,950 --> 01:02:41,920
went to a therapist about it right i

1758
01:02:44,789 --> 01:02:42,960
mentioned the date by the way when i

1759
01:02:46,630 --> 01:02:44,799
started like what kind of what kind of

1760
01:02:49,270 --> 01:02:46,640
[\h__\h] loser just spends their time

1761
01:02:50,789 --> 01:02:49,280
doing something like that

1762
01:02:53,349 --> 01:02:50,799
right um

1763
01:02:55,349 --> 01:02:53,359
i i think that there is not so the the

1764
01:02:57,510 --> 01:02:55,359
the the story of throwaway i mentioned

1765
01:02:59,349 --> 01:02:57,520
it's a pun right uh because i like puns

1766
01:03:01,510 --> 01:02:59,359
the thing about puns is it it requires

1767
01:03:02,870 --> 01:03:01,520
you to to apply logic in a lot of ways

1768
01:03:04,549 --> 01:03:02,880
right so it's just

1769
01:03:06,870 --> 01:03:04,559
he's absolutely right and he has a very

1770
01:03:08,710 --> 01:03:06,880
valid point and so just like i said as

1771
01:03:09,990 --> 01:03:08,720
thorough alien take it all with a bowl

1772
01:03:11,670 --> 01:03:10,000
of salt i don't have a problem with

1773
01:03:14,150 --> 01:03:11,680
people disbelieving me

1774
01:03:14,870 --> 01:03:14,160
i get it i i the way i left the story it

1775
01:03:18,309 --> 01:03:14,880
was

1776
01:03:19,750 --> 01:03:18,319
super final right i totally get it um

1777
01:03:22,309 --> 01:03:19,760
but all of this i hope just gives

1778
01:03:24,630 --> 01:03:22,319
context to some of that and i think when

1779
01:03:27,270 --> 01:03:24,640
you you hear the this real story i think

1780
01:03:28,870 --> 01:03:27,280
it the pieces fit is kind of my opinion

1781
01:03:30,150 --> 01:03:28,880
and that's kind of why i thought that

1782
01:03:32,150 --> 01:03:30,160
some of these personal details in my

1783
01:03:33,589 --> 01:03:32,160
life that could be verified by family

1784
01:03:35,910 --> 01:03:33,599
members if they chose to come and

1785
01:03:37,670 --> 01:03:35,920
forward and say these things

1786
01:03:40,029 --> 01:03:37,680
could help corroborate the story that's

1787
01:03:43,109 --> 01:03:40,039
why the the story itself was always the

1788
01:03:43,990 --> 01:03:43,119
self-encapsulated proof of itself and i

1789
01:03:45,670 --> 01:03:44,000
thought that there was something

1790
01:03:48,470 --> 01:03:45,680
beautiful about that right whether

1791
01:03:51,349 --> 01:03:48,480
people believe it or not i don't care uh

1792
01:03:53,109 --> 01:03:51,359
it's i think a masterpiece and it's to

1793
01:03:55,270 --> 01:03:53,119
me it's one of the most important things

1794
01:03:57,190 --> 01:03:55,280
i've ever done and so i would like to

1795
01:03:58,789 --> 01:03:57,200
explain uh the

1796
01:04:00,630 --> 01:03:58,799
thought process behind it i also know

1797
01:04:03,029 --> 01:04:00,640
that a lot of people struggled with

1798
01:04:07,829 --> 01:04:05,750
going into a.t uh and i wanted to try to

1799
01:04:09,829 --> 01:04:07,839
help give some closure

1800
01:04:12,309 --> 01:04:09,839
um

1801
01:04:14,549 --> 01:04:12,319
to some of those people to tell them i

1802
01:04:16,710 --> 01:04:14,559
was not abducted by aliens to the best

1803
01:04:18,549 --> 01:04:16,720
of my knowledge right it's possibly they

1804
01:04:19,510 --> 01:04:18,559
they meant my wife mind wiped me or

1805
01:04:20,789 --> 01:04:19,520
something

1806
01:04:22,710 --> 01:04:20,799
um

1807
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:22,720
are you uncomfortable

1808
01:04:28,230 --> 01:04:26,850
uncomfortable i think

1809
01:04:30,390 --> 01:04:28,240
[Laughter]

1810
01:04:32,789 --> 01:04:30,400
but i love that comment but because this

1811
01:04:34,789 --> 01:04:32,799
is like this i'm not uncomfortable [\h__\h]

1812
01:04:36,390 --> 01:04:34,799
like that's the thing i have talked to

1813
01:04:37,589 --> 01:04:36,400
you before but like this is all new

1814
01:04:38,829 --> 01:04:37,599
stuff that we're talking about right now

1815
01:04:43,349 --> 01:04:38,839
like

1816
01:04:46,390 --> 01:04:43,359
yeah it's well it blew my mind too

1817
01:04:48,230 --> 01:04:46,400
so it makes two of us um

1818
01:04:49,829 --> 01:04:48,240
but yeah so uh all right so back to some

1819
01:04:51,990 --> 01:04:49,839
more of the evidence like uh i mentioned

1820
01:04:53,510 --> 01:04:52,000
the jobs in the story again this is

1821
01:04:55,430 --> 01:04:53,520
going to be it's witness testimony it's

1822
01:04:57,270 --> 01:04:55,440
like a court right i i brought my

1823
01:04:58,870 --> 01:04:57,280
witnesses the two guys right i brought

1824
01:04:59,990 --> 01:04:58,880
two guys with me said i was going to do

1825
01:05:01,190 --> 01:05:00,000
the story again

1826
01:05:02,470 --> 01:05:01,200
who knows i could be making it all up

1827
01:05:03,910 --> 01:05:02,480
but at some point

1828
01:05:05,670 --> 01:05:03,920
logically it makes more sense to believe

1829
01:05:06,950 --> 01:05:05,680
it than to not believe it but that's

1830
01:05:08,870 --> 01:05:06,960
fine there's always there's still people

1831
01:05:10,150 --> 01:05:08,880
that believe that the earth is flat

1832
01:05:11,510 --> 01:05:10,160
right so

1833
01:05:14,630 --> 01:05:11,520
what are you going to do

1834
01:05:15,510 --> 01:05:14,640
um anyway so the four jobs um i

1835
01:05:17,190 --> 01:05:15,520
mentioned

1836
01:05:19,750 --> 01:05:17,200
i'm going to write down so in the four

1837
01:05:21,670 --> 01:05:19,760
jobs only two of them were mine

1838
01:05:24,549 --> 01:05:21,680
one of them were my brothers and one was

1839
01:05:26,549 --> 01:05:24,559
a friend of mine's so my brother will be

1840
01:05:27,670 --> 01:05:26,559
able to confirm the job that he had and

1841
01:05:30,549 --> 01:05:27,680
he'll probably be able to confirm the

1842
01:05:32,549 --> 01:05:30,559
jobs that i had too so once again

1843
01:05:34,390 --> 01:05:32,559
it's like a magic trick

1844
01:05:38,230 --> 01:05:34,400
here's my empty piece of paper here i'm

1845
01:05:42,870 --> 01:05:39,510
so that's the circle right that's how

1846
01:05:45,829 --> 01:05:42,880
you know it's this piece of paper um

1847
01:05:47,589 --> 01:05:45,839
the the jobs i listed uh i i i had it

1848
01:05:50,230 --> 01:05:47,599
pulled up earlier because i

1849
01:05:51,589 --> 01:05:50,240
i can't remember exactly but i listed i

1850
01:05:52,789 --> 01:05:51,599
mean i remember the jobs i listed but i

1851
01:05:55,190 --> 01:05:52,799
didn't remember the order i listed them

1852
01:05:57,190 --> 01:05:55,200
in the story but it doesn't matter um

1853
01:05:58,470 --> 01:05:57,200
don't no don't matter box get away get

1854
01:06:01,990 --> 01:05:58,480
away thought

1855
01:06:04,630 --> 01:06:02,000
um so the four jobs i listed were uh i

1856
01:06:06,549 --> 01:06:04,640
think a sandwich shop employee

1857
01:06:08,069 --> 01:06:06,559
janitorial work

1858
01:06:10,549 --> 01:06:08,079
uh

1859
01:06:13,270 --> 01:06:10,559
a shipping company employee like packing

1860
01:06:15,670 --> 01:06:13,280
boxes and delivering pizza i believe

1861
01:06:17,589 --> 01:06:15,680
were the minimum wage jobs i listed

1862
01:06:21,349 --> 01:06:17,599
two of those were actual jobs that i

1863
01:06:23,190 --> 01:06:21,359
held in before this time you know period

1864
01:06:24,470 --> 01:06:23,200
happened and one of them was one of my

1865
01:06:27,670 --> 01:06:24,480
brother's jobs because i wrote my family

1866
01:06:32,870 --> 01:06:30,950
which is why it was a story right um

1867
01:06:34,069 --> 01:06:32,880
uh let me write these answers down and

1868
01:06:35,829 --> 01:06:34,079
then i'm going to fold it and you guys

1869
01:06:39,430 --> 01:06:35,839
can see that it's the same piece of

1870
01:06:41,510 --> 01:06:39,440
paper right here right um take your time

1871
01:06:43,510 --> 01:06:41,520
i've got some i've got some

1872
01:06:48,069 --> 01:06:43,520
some audio to play too

1873
01:06:51,270 --> 01:06:48,079
oh ooh jeopardy music oh giant blocks of

1874
01:06:56,150 --> 01:06:52,870
somebody again

1875
01:06:57,670 --> 01:06:56,160
giant blocks of stone that's all i'm

1876
01:06:58,630 --> 01:06:57,680
thinking about because i want to ask

1877
01:06:59,349 --> 01:06:58,640
about

1878
01:07:03,450 --> 01:06:59,359
the

1879
01:07:05,270 --> 01:07:03,460
sorry

1880
01:07:07,190 --> 01:07:05,280
[Music]

1881
01:07:08,950 --> 01:07:07,200
yeah yeah we're good we're rolling we're

1882
01:07:11,190 --> 01:07:08,960
going with it we do we're we're all the

1883
01:07:13,109 --> 01:07:11,200
same wavelength brother

1884
01:07:16,789 --> 01:07:13,119
oh wait

1885
01:07:19,349 --> 01:07:16,799
so i i've written down my bros job uh

1886
01:07:21,190 --> 01:07:19,359
and my jobs i'm going to fold them

1887
01:07:24,230 --> 01:07:21,200
uh right here so you

1888
01:07:26,789 --> 01:07:24,240
can't read them uh there's that oops

1889
01:07:28,390 --> 01:07:26,799
don't look uh ignore my fingernails

1890
01:07:30,150 --> 01:07:28,400
they're very long i'm sorry

1891
01:07:31,510 --> 01:07:30,160
uh that's the same squiggle i made

1892
01:07:33,750 --> 01:07:31,520
before

1893
01:07:34,710 --> 01:07:33,760
right here

1894
01:07:36,150 --> 01:07:34,720
so

1895
01:07:37,750 --> 01:07:36,160
brother

1896
01:07:40,710 --> 01:07:37,760
uh

1897
01:07:42,309 --> 01:07:40,720
keep it held up so you know i'm not

1898
01:07:45,029 --> 01:07:42,319
pulling any shenanigans yeah we've gotta

1899
01:07:45,750 --> 01:07:45,039
we we've gotta wait for uh we gotta wait

1900
01:07:51,750 --> 01:07:45,760
for

1901
01:07:55,510 --> 01:07:52,950
mikey

1902
01:07:59,029 --> 01:07:55,520
for jobs which ones were mine which two

1903
01:08:00,470 --> 01:07:59,039
were mine and which uh one was yours

1904
01:08:01,510 --> 01:08:00,480
um

1905
01:08:03,990 --> 01:08:01,520
yes that's correct what you're texting

1906
01:08:05,990 --> 01:08:04,000
me is correct brother these are these

1907
01:08:07,589 --> 01:08:06,000
are details for those that just texted

1908
01:08:11,430 --> 01:08:07,599
me right now to verify my employment

1909
01:08:13,510 --> 01:08:11,440
history so he's hearing right um well

1910
01:08:15,510 --> 01:08:13,520
i'm not i'm not gonna say

1911
01:08:17,829 --> 01:08:15,520
well i guess i just did but we you can

1912
01:08:20,870 --> 01:08:17,839
confirm that he texted this to me

1913
01:08:23,829 --> 01:08:20,880
he says uh you worked at a sandwich shop

1914
01:08:25,910 --> 01:08:23,839
yeah uh i worked as the pizza guy i

1915
01:08:28,709 --> 01:08:25,920
don't remember you ever working

1916
01:08:31,269 --> 01:08:28,719
packaging boxes but i think you worked

1917
01:08:33,030 --> 01:08:31,279
as a janitor at some point look look

1918
01:08:35,590 --> 01:08:33,040
here hey here's me was a janitor in a

1919
01:08:40,309 --> 01:08:35,600
sandwich shop and brother was pizza bro

1920
01:08:44,870 --> 01:08:42,309
no it wasn't scrub away it was uh

1921
01:08:47,510 --> 01:08:44,880
blimpies uh by the way it's fun fact

1922
01:08:49,510 --> 01:08:47,520
about that i my very first day the

1923
01:08:51,430 --> 01:08:49,520
entire rest of the staff quit and left

1924
01:08:54,229 --> 01:08:51,440
me with the whole store on my own it

1925
01:08:56,789 --> 01:08:54,239
sucked uh the the owner was a little bit

1926
01:08:58,470 --> 01:08:56,799
of a jerk but uh i can understand they

1927
01:09:01,110 --> 01:08:58,480
left for probably a good reason but yeah

1928
01:09:02,390 --> 01:09:01,120
it was a blimpy that i worked at um

1929
01:09:03,829 --> 01:09:02,400
i was a janitor actually at two

1930
01:09:05,829 --> 01:09:03,839
different churches one of those churches

1931
01:09:07,910 --> 01:09:05,839
i have a ghost story about by the way we

1932
01:09:10,149 --> 01:09:07,920
can talk about it because it's creeped

1933
01:09:12,709 --> 01:09:10,159
me the [\h__\h] out yeah i think in the next

1934
01:09:15,510 --> 01:09:12,719
15 minutes we're gonna switch to your

1935
01:09:18,149 --> 01:09:15,520
experiences okay i think that sounds

1936
01:09:20,070 --> 01:09:18,159
like a lot of fun hell yeah dude so

1937
01:09:23,910 --> 01:09:20,080
that's that's the evidence that i've got

1938
01:09:25,990 --> 01:09:23,920
right and to me i i didn't bother with

1939
01:09:27,590 --> 01:09:26,000
you know screenshotting the account

1940
01:09:29,430 --> 01:09:27,600
because i figured that's easily effect

1941
01:09:31,669 --> 01:09:29,440
i'm a web developer

1942
01:09:33,269 --> 01:09:31,679
i can fake that very easily right with a

1943
01:09:34,870 --> 01:09:33,279
change your system clock and write the

1944
01:09:37,269 --> 01:09:34,880
web page i could go in and do it right

1945
01:09:40,630 --> 01:09:37,279
now and copy reddit from 2013

1946
01:09:43,110 --> 01:09:40,640
and get the styling just as it was and

1947
01:09:45,030 --> 01:09:43,120
say look this is me i still have my

1948
01:09:47,110 --> 01:09:45,040
phone from that time period i've got my

1949
01:09:49,510 --> 01:09:47,120
old hardware i can fake it if i wanted

1950
01:09:52,630 --> 01:09:49,520
to right uh

1951
01:09:54,870 --> 01:09:52,640
so you know my my theory and what i

1952
01:09:56,149 --> 01:09:54,880
thought would probably be the most

1953
01:09:57,990 --> 01:09:56,159
convincing

1954
01:10:00,470 --> 01:09:58,000
uh is that if i encoded all of the

1955
01:10:03,830 --> 01:10:00,480
details of my life like the tooth the

1956
01:10:05,510 --> 01:10:03,840
niece the family the brother the jobs

1957
01:10:07,830 --> 01:10:05,520
it would be

1958
01:10:09,990 --> 01:10:07,840
convincing enough that a reasonable

1959
01:10:13,189 --> 01:10:10,000
person would say it doesn't make sense

1960
01:10:14,709 --> 01:10:13,199
that this guy is lying right and so that

1961
01:10:16,310 --> 01:10:14,719
it's all encapsulated right it's

1962
01:10:18,229 --> 01:10:16,320
self-contained like a good software

1963
01:10:20,070 --> 01:10:18,239
developer encapsulates and abstracts

1964
01:10:22,950 --> 01:10:20,080
things away it's

1965
01:10:26,709 --> 01:10:22,960
self-contained like a tic tac

1966
01:10:30,870 --> 01:10:26,719
oh oh did you say tic tac dude dude tic

1967
01:10:32,250 --> 01:10:30,880
tacs yes did you just say tic tac

1968
01:10:34,070 --> 01:10:32,260
self-contained

1969
01:10:35,270 --> 01:10:34,080
[Music]

1970
01:10:37,750 --> 01:10:35,280
uh you

1971
01:10:38,870 --> 01:10:37,760
said you do music don't you

1972
01:10:40,550 --> 01:10:38,880
yeah dude

1973
01:10:42,950 --> 01:10:40,560
you guys play together i used to jam

1974
01:10:44,630 --> 01:10:42,960
back and i led i used to lead worship at

1975
01:10:47,430 --> 01:10:44,640
a church my brother could could tell

1976
01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:47,440
that if he oh wait jedi camper just said

1977
01:10:51,990 --> 01:10:49,600
that synchronicities

1978
01:10:53,590 --> 01:10:52,000
uh he said he literally said that as i

1979
01:10:55,430 --> 01:10:53,600
was saying

1980
01:10:57,590 --> 01:10:55,440
the recap about the charismatic church

1981
01:10:59,669 --> 01:10:57,600
yeah i played where i led worship at an

1982
01:11:03,030 --> 01:10:59,679
old church a couple times my brother

1983
01:11:05,750 --> 01:11:03,040
could confirm it yeah so okay we've got

1984
01:11:08,709 --> 01:11:05,760
we've got uh uh 12 minutes i want to

1985
01:11:11,030 --> 01:11:08,719
dedicate to like what the [\h__\h] questions

1986
01:11:12,790 --> 01:11:11,040
absolutely i have a question really

1987
01:11:15,270 --> 01:11:12,800
quick uh because i'm gonna forget it

1988
01:11:17,669 --> 01:11:15,280
okay so do you hate jazz or what dude

1989
01:11:20,149 --> 01:11:17,679
i'm a trumpet player uh but i got my

1990
01:11:22,630 --> 01:11:20,159
braces off and i sucked uh it's awesome

1991
01:11:24,630 --> 01:11:22,640
but i suck now so when the when i it was

1992
01:11:26,070 --> 01:11:24,640
a detail event conan about my life i

1993
01:11:27,350 --> 01:11:26,080
played trumpet i can get my trumpet now

1994
01:11:30,070 --> 01:11:27,360
and play it if you wanted to my son's

1995
01:11:31,910 --> 01:11:30,080
asleep but whatever um but i suck now

1996
01:11:33,430 --> 01:11:31,920
and it hurts the alien's ears uh they

1997
01:11:34,870 --> 01:11:33,440
liked bluegrass because i lived in

1998
01:11:37,030 --> 01:11:34,880
appalachia which is a detail my brother

1999
01:11:38,630 --> 01:11:37,040
could confirm um

2000
01:11:40,229 --> 01:11:38,640
they liked bluegrass and i when i was a

2001
01:11:42,709 --> 01:11:40,239
reporter i wrote an article about the

2002
01:11:45,030 --> 01:11:42,719
bluegrass local jams

2003
01:11:46,870 --> 01:11:45,040
in the region i lived 20 minutes away

2004
01:11:50,870 --> 01:11:46,880
from charlottesville virginia which is

2005
01:11:53,669 --> 01:11:50,880
the headquarters of stargate the

2006
01:11:55,350 --> 01:11:53,679
cia psychic research program

2007
01:11:57,030 --> 01:11:55,360
i think there's something geographically

2008
01:11:59,110 --> 01:11:57,040
special about that area i want to ask

2009
01:12:00,870 --> 01:11:59,120
lou elizondo one day if swannano mansion

2010
01:12:02,390 --> 01:12:00,880
is training grounds for cia astral

2011
01:12:06,630 --> 01:12:02,400
projectors

2012
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:11,910
off uh s-w-a-n-n-a-n-o-a

2013
01:12:17,430 --> 01:12:15,110
mansion uh got it the former governor of

2014
01:12:19,990 --> 01:12:17,440
virginia um

2015
01:12:21,350 --> 01:12:20,000
whatever yeah we get 12 minutes 10 9 11

2016
01:12:24,630 --> 01:12:21,360
whatever it is what not something the

2017
01:12:27,270 --> 01:12:24,640
countdown is real and that isn't real

2018
01:12:28,790 --> 01:12:27,280
everything will catch on fire okay but i

2019
01:12:30,550 --> 01:12:28,800
don't have i don't i don't have a time

2020
01:12:32,870 --> 01:12:30,560
limit tonight

2021
01:12:35,110 --> 01:12:32,880
i'm here

2022
01:12:36,229 --> 01:12:35,120
whatever y'all wanna i'm fine uh

2023
01:12:38,950 --> 01:12:36,239
i don't even know what time the show is

2024
01:12:40,630 --> 01:12:38,960
supposed to end to be honest with you

2025
01:12:43,350 --> 01:12:40,640
there is there's here's the thing he's

2026
01:12:46,790 --> 01:12:43,360
like there is no end we do whatever we

2027
01:12:48,229 --> 01:12:46,800
want we know what the [\h__\h] we want to do

2028
01:12:50,310 --> 01:12:48,239
we don't have our parents telling us

2029
01:12:53,030 --> 01:12:50,320
what to do

2030
01:12:54,070 --> 01:12:53,040
i am my own i am a dad now so i could do

2031
01:12:56,229 --> 01:12:54,080
literally

2032
01:12:58,390 --> 01:12:56,239
we get to set the rules yeah we're all

2033
01:13:01,430 --> 01:12:58,400
dads dude we're dads

2034
01:13:03,510 --> 01:13:01,440
oh god oh that's so uh yeah so what

2035
01:13:05,030 --> 01:13:03,520
whatever else you want to ask i'm

2036
01:13:06,790 --> 01:13:05,040
totally open for i think we talked about

2037
01:13:08,149 --> 01:13:06,800
another game where you can ping me with

2038
01:13:09,590 --> 01:13:08,159
questions about the meanings of certain

2039
01:13:11,110 --> 01:13:09,600
things if you want to do that we can do

2040
01:13:13,350 --> 01:13:11,120
that do whatever you want to talk about

2041
01:13:15,990 --> 01:13:13,360
i do have a lot of those but i i want to

2042
01:13:17,270 --> 01:13:16,000
ask this one first i i i like this idea

2043
01:13:19,189 --> 01:13:17,280
of like what the [\h__\h] questions like

2044
01:13:20,070 --> 01:13:19,199
really random [\h__\h] that like oh yeah

2045
01:13:23,030 --> 01:13:20,080
sure

2046
01:13:24,310 --> 01:13:23,040
love your uh your take on it so

2047
01:13:27,669 --> 01:13:24,320
you said

2048
01:13:29,669 --> 01:13:27,679
charismatic christianity yeah

2049
01:13:30,550 --> 01:13:29,679
and you totally uh

2050
01:13:35,270 --> 01:13:30,560
we

2051
01:13:38,790 --> 01:13:35,280
said tonight uh that that you you've

2052
01:13:40,390 --> 01:13:38,800
learned certain things from this

2053
01:13:43,510 --> 01:13:40,400
i don't know what do you i mean it's

2054
01:13:45,750 --> 01:13:43,520
religion uh uh a sect of a relation like

2055
01:13:46,950 --> 01:13:45,760
you call presbyterian and like baptist

2056
01:13:49,189 --> 01:13:46,960
like they're both they believe in this

2057
01:13:51,189 --> 01:13:49,199
stuff too they're like the the wild one

2058
01:13:53,189 --> 01:13:51,199
the charismatic they're like kissing

2059
01:13:55,750 --> 01:13:53,199
snakes and [\h__\h] dude well i've never

2060
01:13:57,910 --> 01:13:55,760
kissed a snake i never did the snake

2061
01:14:00,630 --> 01:13:57,920
handling that was too far for me uh but

2062
01:14:02,229 --> 01:14:00,640
yeah

2063
01:14:03,830 --> 01:14:02,239
so one of the things about throw alien

2064
01:14:05,910 --> 01:14:03,840
is i was very paranoid about developing

2065
01:14:08,870 --> 01:14:05,920
a cult because i had been exposed to

2066
01:14:11,669 --> 01:14:08,880
cults in my previous life and i realized

2067
01:14:14,550 --> 01:14:11,679
the super irony of like thinking you're

2068
01:14:15,910 --> 01:14:14,560
predicting the future right and

2069
01:14:18,070 --> 01:14:15,920
that all is part of the stuff that

2070
01:14:20,070 --> 01:14:18,080
frightened me right uh but yeah so

2071
01:14:21,750 --> 01:14:20,080
background was charismatic christianity

2072
01:14:23,590 --> 01:14:21,760
the they are the people who believe the

2073
01:14:25,990 --> 01:14:23,600
gifts of spirit did not cease in the

2074
01:14:27,910 --> 01:14:26,000
first century they believe that they

2075
01:14:30,310 --> 01:14:27,920
continue today so people like prophesy

2076
01:14:32,229 --> 01:14:30,320
or have super natural knowledge about

2077
01:14:33,669 --> 01:14:32,239
things they don't know anything about

2078
01:14:36,149 --> 01:14:33,679
physically right that was my theory is

2079
01:14:39,590 --> 01:14:36,159
that it's the same mechanism as remote

2080
01:14:42,709 --> 01:14:39,600
viewing as psychics channeling ghosts or

2081
01:14:44,390 --> 01:14:42,719
whatever i've had my you know my

2082
01:14:46,550 --> 01:14:44,400
mom has had ghost stories my dad has had

2083
01:14:48,310 --> 01:14:46,560
ufo sightings i've had ufo sightings my

2084
01:14:48,950 --> 01:14:48,320
brothers talked about uh my niece having

2085
01:14:52,630 --> 01:14:48,960
go

2086
01:14:54,149 --> 01:14:52,640
maybe seeing ghosts before right so um

2087
01:14:57,030 --> 01:14:54,159
[\h__\h] where was i going with that i lost

2088
01:14:59,270 --> 01:14:57,040
my train uh charismatic christianity how

2089
01:15:00,229 --> 01:14:59,280
did you get into it and what does it

2090
01:15:02,550 --> 01:15:00,239
mean

2091
01:15:04,149 --> 01:15:02,560
so it's uh yeah the charismata

2092
01:15:06,550 --> 01:15:04,159
charismatic comes from charismata the

2093
01:15:07,750 --> 01:15:06,560
greek which is uh just the gifts of the

2094
01:15:10,709 --> 01:15:07,760
spirit that's just the word they used

2095
01:15:12,630 --> 01:15:10,719
for that i believe uh so speaking in

2096
01:15:14,630 --> 01:15:12,640
tongues that kind of stuff um

2097
01:15:16,390 --> 01:15:14,640
i'm not gonna say i will i will say i i

2098
01:15:17,669 --> 01:15:16,400
do that today as a form of meditation

2099
01:15:19,430 --> 01:15:17,679
and i talk to my therapist about it

2100
01:15:21,270 --> 01:15:19,440
right i've talked to her about how i use

2101
01:15:24,550 --> 01:15:21,280
it as an emotional release sometimes

2102
01:15:26,229 --> 01:15:24,560
just those guttural noises right that uh

2103
01:15:28,950 --> 01:15:26,239
you just don't know how to

2104
01:15:30,709 --> 01:15:28,960
words don't quite mean it exactly right

2105
01:15:32,709 --> 01:15:30,719
i do that [\h__\h] in the shower i feel so

2106
01:15:34,070 --> 01:15:32,719
good dude yeah and it's nonsense right

2107
01:15:35,350 --> 01:15:34,080
it doesn't mean anything but it's just

2108
01:15:37,430 --> 01:15:35,360
like a

2109
01:15:39,110 --> 01:15:37,440
anyways they believe in those things

2110
01:15:43,350 --> 01:15:39,120
y'all needed ass whoopings isn't it

2111
01:15:46,630 --> 01:15:45,189
we were raised jehovah's witness right

2112
01:15:48,470 --> 01:15:46,640
um and we were raised to not believe in

2113
01:15:49,430 --> 01:15:48,480
those things in college is when i get

2114
01:15:50,709 --> 01:15:49,440
involved with the charismatic

2115
01:15:52,550 --> 01:15:50,719
christianity stuff and i thought there

2116
01:15:54,790 --> 01:15:52,560
was something to it right because we had

2117
01:15:55,990 --> 01:15:54,800
had supernatural experiences throughout

2118
01:15:58,310 --> 01:15:56,000
our lives i remember an instance where

2119
01:15:59,510 --> 01:15:58,320
my phone when my brother was little i

2120
01:16:00,790 --> 01:15:59,520
don't know if he'll remember this or not

2121
01:16:02,070 --> 01:16:00,800
but we were we were sleeping at

2122
01:16:03,350 --> 01:16:02,080
grandma's house and he said somebody

2123
01:16:05,030 --> 01:16:03,360
answered the phone like he woke up and

2124
01:16:06,950 --> 01:16:05,040
said somebody's on the phone and both me

2125
01:16:08,790 --> 01:16:06,960
and grandma's like dude phones are not

2126
01:16:09,830 --> 01:16:08,800
ringing what and then the phone rings

2127
01:16:11,189 --> 01:16:09,840
right and those are those

2128
01:16:13,189 --> 01:16:11,199
synchronicities that i kind of mentioned

2129
01:16:15,110 --> 01:16:13,199
earlier uh sometimes they're fighting i

2130
01:16:17,189 --> 01:16:15,120
had one with a spider as my maybe their

2131
01:16:19,030 --> 01:16:17,199
coincidences right i get that i

2132
01:16:20,790 --> 01:16:19,040
understand but but sometimes they're a

2133
01:16:22,470 --> 01:16:20,800
little bit frightening right

2134
01:16:24,470 --> 01:16:22,480
i was convinced the cia was going to get

2135
01:16:25,750 --> 01:16:24,480
me this last summer

2136
01:16:27,350 --> 01:16:25,760
you know because of synchronicities

2137
01:16:28,790 --> 01:16:27,360
right um

2138
01:16:30,630 --> 01:16:28,800
uh sometimes they're frightening right i

2139
01:16:32,390 --> 01:16:30,640
didn't know how to process it so uh uh

2140
01:16:33,590 --> 01:16:32,400
sorry got off track again uh but i'm

2141
01:16:36,229 --> 01:16:33,600
sure you guys will get me back no you

2142
01:16:37,669 --> 01:16:36,239
didn't you're doing great

2143
01:16:38,950 --> 01:16:37,679
i just want to say thanks guys this is

2144
01:16:40,790 --> 01:16:38,960
uh i mean thank you for letting me come

2145
01:16:42,070 --> 01:16:40,800
on and try to to tell about some of

2146
01:16:43,990 --> 01:16:42,080
these things i hope it gives some people

2147
01:16:45,669 --> 01:16:44,000
some closure um

2148
01:16:47,510 --> 01:16:45,679
right and and thanks for just the

2149
01:16:49,110 --> 01:16:47,520
opportunity to to know you guys right

2150
01:16:52,310 --> 01:16:49,120
because i think you're cool guys too so

2151
01:16:54,229 --> 01:16:52,320
um but yeah we love you man yeah like

2152
01:16:57,590 --> 01:16:54,239
just the fact you're just speaking to us

2153
01:16:59,750 --> 01:16:57,600
uh publicly is is is awesome man like

2154
01:17:00,870 --> 01:16:59,760
a lot of this stuff is very hard to put

2155
01:17:03,189 --> 01:17:00,880
in

2156
01:17:07,510 --> 01:17:03,199
not to mention like a uh

2157
01:17:09,910 --> 01:17:07,520
a timeline but like how do you put into

2158
01:17:12,709 --> 01:17:09,920
words exactly what you're thinking if

2159
01:17:14,870 --> 01:17:12,719
you're experiencing some really like

2160
01:17:17,750 --> 01:17:14,880
things that are not normal to the

2161
01:17:20,310 --> 01:17:17,760
everyday uh yeah you know well it's it's

2162
01:17:22,630 --> 01:17:20,320
outside of the norm of consensus reality

2163
01:17:24,390 --> 01:17:22,640
right which is why if you experience

2164
01:17:25,910 --> 01:17:24,400
those things like things that whether

2165
01:17:27,189 --> 01:17:25,920
they exist in reality or not your

2166
01:17:29,430 --> 01:17:27,199
perception of them may be that they are

2167
01:17:31,910 --> 01:17:29,440
supernatural right it's it's again it's

2168
01:17:34,149 --> 01:17:31,920
about the experience right your human

2169
01:17:35,910 --> 01:17:34,159
experience right and and all of the

2170
01:17:37,430 --> 01:17:35,920
things that happen to you uh it can be

2171
01:17:39,669 --> 01:17:37,440
kind of discombobulating a little bit

2172
01:17:41,270 --> 01:17:39,679
right uh so yeah

2173
01:17:42,709 --> 01:17:41,280
yeah dude so

2174
01:17:46,630 --> 01:17:42,719
uh

2175
01:17:47,910 --> 01:17:46,640
more minutes for what the [\h__\h] questions

2176
01:17:49,830 --> 01:17:47,920
joe do you have

2177
01:17:52,470 --> 01:17:49,840
i want to know just about some of like

2178
01:17:56,630 --> 01:17:52,480
your personal experiences just you know

2179
01:18:00,630 --> 01:17:58,950
when i was the janitor right um i was i

2180
01:18:01,910 --> 01:18:00,640
was responsible for locking up at night

2181
01:18:03,910 --> 01:18:01,920
in the one building that was very old

2182
01:18:05,510 --> 01:18:03,920
it's built in the 60s there were three

2183
01:18:07,910 --> 01:18:05,520
chambers essentially to the big long

2184
01:18:09,910 --> 01:18:07,920
building there was one two three right

2185
01:18:11,910 --> 01:18:09,920
and you deadbolt all of them from each

2186
01:18:13,750 --> 01:18:11,920
other so they're isolated whatever one

2187
01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:13,760
night i notice the light is on the on

2188
01:18:17,270 --> 01:18:15,840
and the top um i walk in downstairs flip

2189
01:18:18,470 --> 01:18:17,280
the light on downstairs start walking up

2190
01:18:19,910 --> 01:18:18,480
the stairs get halfway up the stairs the

2191
01:18:22,229 --> 01:18:19,920
light cuts off and i get creeped out

2192
01:18:24,390 --> 01:18:22,239
right again could be synchronicity

2193
01:18:25,750 --> 01:18:24,400
there's more to it um could be just

2194
01:18:27,990 --> 01:18:25,760
weird things maybe psychologically

2195
01:18:29,750 --> 01:18:28,000
creeping myself out um but the light

2196
01:18:31,110 --> 01:18:29,760
turns off i say oh that's weird i'm not

2197
01:18:32,390 --> 01:18:31,120
gonna go back downstairs and flip it off

2198
01:18:34,550 --> 01:18:32,400
because there's a light switch upstairs

2199
01:18:37,590 --> 01:18:34,560
so i'm gonna go flip it on up there walk

2200
01:18:40,709 --> 01:18:37,600
into the upstairs no sooner does my

2201
01:18:42,149 --> 01:18:40,719
finger even touch briefly the

2202
01:18:45,030 --> 01:18:42,159
light switch that the lights come back

2203
01:18:46,470 --> 01:18:45,040
on so it's like ah okay it's just creepy

2204
01:18:48,149 --> 01:18:46,480
i'm creeping myself out it's late at

2205
01:18:50,709 --> 01:18:48,159
night i'm alone it's probably

2206
01:18:52,310 --> 01:18:50,719
psychological um how much did the

2207
01:18:54,149 --> 01:18:52,320
building were i don't know probably a

2208
01:18:55,430 --> 01:18:54,159
lot more than me that's right he wanted

2209
01:18:57,110 --> 01:18:55,440
to know how much the internet weighed

2210
01:18:58,870 --> 01:18:57,120
earlier

2211
01:19:00,709 --> 01:18:58,880
wait man what kind of weight do you put

2212
01:19:03,270 --> 01:19:00,719
on things um

2213
01:19:05,030 --> 01:19:03,280
what is weight even uh anyways so i i

2214
01:19:07,270 --> 01:19:05,040
finished locking up turned the light on

2215
01:19:09,510 --> 01:19:07,280
off that was upstairs eyes like creeped

2216
01:19:10,870 --> 01:19:09,520
out so i was like this i'm leaving uh

2217
01:19:12,709 --> 01:19:10,880
whatever and i get downstairs there's

2218
01:19:14,310 --> 01:19:12,719
more lights on downstairs and i'm like

2219
01:19:17,590 --> 01:19:14,320
[\h__\h] it they're staying on i'm not going

2220
01:19:18,870 --> 01:19:17,600
back uh so i talk i the next time i'm at

2221
01:19:21,510 --> 01:19:18,880
work i tell my co-workers about they're

2222
01:19:23,350 --> 01:19:21,520
like yes dude ghosts are here for real

2223
01:19:25,350 --> 01:19:23,360
the doors open and close on their own

2224
01:19:26,950 --> 01:19:25,360
all of these things right um the other

2225
01:19:29,830 --> 01:19:26,960
ghost story i have is when i was a

2226
01:19:32,149 --> 01:19:29,840
reporter for halloween one year uh

2227
01:19:33,750 --> 01:19:32,159
i went to an actual an actual haunted

2228
01:19:34,790 --> 01:19:33,760
house i didn't believe in it at the time

2229
01:19:38,229 --> 01:19:34,800
but i thought there might be something

2230
01:19:39,189 --> 01:19:38,239
to it right this was 2012 2011 i think

2231
01:19:41,510 --> 01:19:39,199
um

2232
01:19:43,189 --> 01:19:41,520
so i went to a real haunted house by

2233
01:19:45,430 --> 01:19:43,199
myself with some man that i had never

2234
01:19:46,870 --> 01:19:45,440
met in a house that some lady died in

2235
01:19:48,630 --> 01:19:46,880
doing a satanic prayer ritual that was

2236
01:19:49,590 --> 01:19:48,640
supposedly haunted i wrote the story

2237
01:19:51,510 --> 01:19:49,600
from that perspective right as a

2238
01:19:52,630 --> 01:19:51,520
psychological thriller uh because i was

2239
01:19:54,550 --> 01:19:52,640
interested in investigating it

2240
01:19:55,510 --> 01:19:54,560
professionally right that's why i did it

2241
01:19:57,350 --> 01:19:55,520
because i

2242
01:19:58,709 --> 01:19:57,360
anyways i went out

2243
01:20:00,950 --> 01:19:58,719
what that was good

2244
01:20:02,229 --> 01:20:00,960
that's so scary it was creepy and there

2245
01:20:03,350 --> 01:20:02,239
were a couple instances i'm not going to

2246
01:20:05,510 --> 01:20:03,360
talk about a whole lot but there was one

2247
01:20:06,470 --> 01:20:05,520
where he had the ghost radio and it's

2248
01:20:07,669 --> 01:20:06,480
like

2249
01:20:10,310 --> 01:20:07,679
a demon

2250
01:20:12,870 --> 01:20:10,320
i wouldn't i would not go to i would not

2251
01:20:15,430 --> 01:20:12,880
go to a haunted house with my neighbor

2252
01:20:17,750 --> 01:20:15,440
i dude i'm adventurous i say i want to

2253
01:20:20,629 --> 01:20:17,760
find out about the universe uh give me

2254
01:20:21,910 --> 01:20:20,639
all the ghosts right yeah um yeah

2255
01:20:23,430 --> 01:20:21,920
speaking of give me all the ghosts i

2256
01:20:26,149 --> 01:20:23,440
have had i think

2257
01:20:28,709 --> 01:20:26,159
well i depends on what they are or how

2258
01:20:30,070 --> 01:20:28,719
you classify them um

2259
01:20:31,830 --> 01:20:30,080
i have had several sightings over the

2260
01:20:33,510 --> 01:20:31,840
last summer i had one actually sunday it

2261
01:20:35,590 --> 01:20:33,520
could have been a meteor it just was off

2262
01:20:37,189 --> 01:20:35,600
in the distance it flashed into being

2263
01:20:38,790 --> 01:20:37,199
traveled a short way very slowly and

2264
01:20:40,229 --> 01:20:38,800
then flashed out very well could have

2265
01:20:41,990 --> 01:20:40,239
been a meter i don't know but that means

2266
01:20:43,189 --> 01:20:42,000
it's unidentified to me right it was it

2267
01:20:45,990 --> 01:20:43,199
seemed like it was moving a little too

2268
01:20:47,750 --> 01:20:46,000
slow to be a meteor i don't know uh i'm

2269
01:20:48,790 --> 01:20:47,760
i'm not an astrophysicist or an

2270
01:20:50,870 --> 01:20:48,800
astronomer

2271
01:20:51,910 --> 01:20:50,880
um i do have some binoculars though

2272
01:20:54,790 --> 01:20:51,920
um

2273
01:20:56,390 --> 01:20:54,800
so uh the other one is i the two that i

2274
01:20:59,110 --> 01:20:56,400
think communicated with me are the most

2275
01:21:01,110 --> 01:20:59,120
interesting ones and

2276
01:21:02,870 --> 01:21:01,120
it quickly but they are interesting so

2277
01:21:05,110 --> 01:21:02,880
one of them i was actually talking with

2278
01:21:07,350 --> 01:21:05,120
a friend from high school who his name

2279
01:21:08,790 --> 01:21:07,360
is frank uh he's a filmmaker we're

2280
01:21:10,470 --> 01:21:08,800
planning on a throw alien documentary

2281
01:21:12,310 --> 01:21:10,480
probably at some point i think we're

2282
01:21:13,350 --> 01:21:12,320
gonna do some interviews whatever he's a

2283
01:21:15,110 --> 01:21:13,360
friend from high school he knows me he

2284
01:21:16,629 --> 01:21:15,120
actually celebrated a.t without knowing

2285
01:21:19,510 --> 01:21:16,639
that i was the author right but uh

2286
01:21:22,070 --> 01:21:19,520
anyways i was talking to him uh and

2287
01:21:24,550 --> 01:21:22,080
i've i was sitting there and i felt my

2288
01:21:26,310 --> 01:21:24,560
whole body lock up and like point to a

2289
01:21:29,750 --> 01:21:26,320
certain space in the sky

2290
01:21:32,950 --> 01:21:29,760
and i saw a couple of speckles and then

2291
01:21:33,990 --> 01:21:32,960
a white like a one of those orbs

2292
01:21:36,470 --> 01:21:34,000
popped in

2293
01:21:38,950 --> 01:21:36,480
wiggled like like it was yelling at me

2294
01:21:41,270 --> 01:21:38,960
is how i describe it um and then it

2295
01:21:42,550 --> 01:21:41,280
winked out again just a story i don't

2296
01:21:44,229 --> 01:21:42,560
know if it's

2297
01:21:45,750 --> 01:21:44,239
who knows maybe i hallucinated it maybe

2298
01:21:48,229 --> 01:21:45,760
i had some biological reaction but if

2299
01:21:50,470 --> 01:21:48,239
these things are like the government

2300
01:21:53,910 --> 01:21:50,480
seems to say able of

2301
01:21:55,430 --> 01:21:53,920
manipulating electricity remotely

2302
01:21:57,189 --> 01:21:55,440
did they lock me up and point me to that

2303
01:21:58,390 --> 01:21:57,199
thing i don't know i have no idea right

2304
01:22:00,950 --> 01:21:58,400
i don't i don't know anything about

2305
01:22:02,629 --> 01:22:00,960
reality um so i felt like it yelled at

2306
01:22:04,629 --> 01:22:02,639
me i know that sounds like lunacy i

2307
01:22:06,310 --> 01:22:04,639
don't have any there's no video evidence

2308
01:22:07,669 --> 01:22:06,320
right but

2309
01:22:09,910 --> 01:22:07,679
how am i going to get video of that

2310
01:22:11,270 --> 01:22:09,920
right it sounds like a story sounds like

2311
01:22:13,350 --> 01:22:11,280
something you make up

2312
01:22:14,629 --> 01:22:13,360
can i just say uh i i meant to bring

2313
01:22:16,629 --> 01:22:14,639
this up earlier when you were talking

2314
01:22:19,430 --> 01:22:16,639
about this this connection between like

2315
01:22:21,189 --> 01:22:19,440
what is communication within the human

2316
01:22:22,950 --> 01:22:21,199
brain right like we

2317
01:22:24,629 --> 01:22:22,960
all three we're talking about like yeah

2318
01:22:26,550 --> 01:22:24,639
we all agree that

2319
01:22:30,070 --> 01:22:26,560
communication within the human brain the

2320
01:22:32,310 --> 01:22:30,080
synapses are is an electrical process

2321
01:22:34,790 --> 01:22:32,320
but it's also chemical right it is oh

2322
01:22:37,110 --> 01:22:34,800
that's true so it's it's it's

2323
01:22:39,750 --> 01:22:37,120
it's almost like this

2324
01:22:41,990 --> 01:22:39,760
like entertain this idea right like

2325
01:22:44,229 --> 01:22:42,000
i'm not making a statement i just i i

2326
01:22:46,310 --> 01:22:44,239
find this very interesting

2327
01:22:47,910 --> 01:22:46,320
uh i had this thought that

2328
01:22:50,709 --> 01:22:47,920
it's the same

2329
01:22:53,830 --> 01:22:50,719
uh concept of

2330
01:22:55,590 --> 01:22:53,840
light being a particle and a wave

2331
01:22:57,030 --> 01:22:55,600
as to

2332
01:23:00,470 --> 01:22:57,040
uh

2333
01:23:01,910 --> 01:23:00,480
this phenomenon being something physical

2334
01:23:02,950 --> 01:23:01,920
not physical

2335
01:23:04,470 --> 01:23:02,960
or

2336
01:23:08,870 --> 01:23:04,480
something that

2337
01:23:10,470 --> 01:23:08,880
happens to you physically but is also

2338
01:23:12,870 --> 01:23:10,480
there i get this i guess what i'm trying

2339
01:23:13,830 --> 01:23:12,880
to say is like this there's this duality

2340
01:23:15,430 --> 01:23:13,840
right

2341
01:23:17,189 --> 01:23:15,440
like yeah

2342
01:23:19,270 --> 01:23:17,199
you can experience it

2343
01:23:21,669 --> 01:23:19,280
and

2344
01:23:23,910 --> 01:23:21,679
you can tell everybody like hey this is

2345
01:23:25,669 --> 01:23:23,920
how i can prove it but there's also

2346
01:23:27,910 --> 01:23:25,679
those experiencers out there that can

2347
01:23:29,270 --> 01:23:27,920
say hey i i experienced this thing but i

2348
01:23:31,350 --> 01:23:29,280
can't prove it

2349
01:23:33,350 --> 01:23:31,360
yeah and that's just gonna be a thing

2350
01:23:36,629 --> 01:23:33,360
forever like we're never gonna get that

2351
01:23:38,470 --> 01:23:36,639
answer yeah i so one thing i think about

2352
01:23:40,149 --> 01:23:38,480
on that topic i do think that the nuts

2353
01:23:42,629 --> 01:23:40,159
and bolts i think we one of the things

2354
01:23:44,629 --> 01:23:42,639
that kind of helped me figure out time

2355
01:23:46,629 --> 01:23:44,639
frames and stuff like that for the story

2356
01:23:48,310 --> 01:23:46,639
was the fact that technology technology

2357
01:23:49,590 --> 01:23:48,320
is advancing so quickly right and we are

2358
01:23:52,310 --> 01:23:49,600
very close to having consumer

2359
01:23:54,629 --> 01:23:52,320
off-the-shelf software or hardware that

2360
01:23:55,830 --> 01:23:54,639
anybody can buy right just my videos

2361
01:23:57,110 --> 01:23:55,840
right they they asked actually if i

2362
01:23:59,990 --> 01:23:57,120
could call them out and i think they're

2363
01:24:00,950 --> 01:24:00,000
a wonderful follow on twitter um they

2364
01:24:02,950 --> 01:24:00,960
post

2365
01:24:04,470 --> 01:24:02,960
maybe his planes i don't know uh he

2366
01:24:06,790 --> 01:24:04,480
seems like he tries to account for for

2367
01:24:07,590 --> 01:24:06,800
airplanes in the sky but um

2368
01:24:09,750 --> 01:24:07,600
uh

2369
01:24:11,030 --> 01:24:09,760
you know

2370
01:24:12,790 --> 01:24:11,040
sorry i don't i don't remember where i

2371
01:24:14,629 --> 01:24:12,800
was going with that but um you know you

2372
01:24:16,390 --> 01:24:14,639
see things in the sky you know who knows

2373
01:24:18,390 --> 01:24:16,400
what they are um

2374
01:24:20,790 --> 01:24:18,400
i see people people say this guy's not t

2375
01:24:22,629 --> 01:24:20,800
it's funny to me honestly it uh

2376
01:24:23,750 --> 01:24:22,639
it's fine it's perfectly valid to have

2377
01:24:25,510 --> 01:24:23,760
that opinion

2378
01:24:27,510 --> 01:24:25,520
um you know the evidence are we talking

2379
01:24:30,070 --> 01:24:27,520
about the chat uh yeah sorry yeah i

2380
01:24:31,990 --> 01:24:30,080
can't get distracted adhd there's always

2381
01:24:34,229 --> 01:24:32,000
one

2382
01:24:35,990 --> 01:24:34,239
hey we're having a good time people want

2383
01:24:38,390 --> 01:24:36,000
to be friends like some people don't

2384
01:24:40,070 --> 01:24:38,400
have friends and that's okay that's okay

2385
01:24:43,030 --> 01:24:40,080
you know we are for everybody just be

2386
01:24:44,870 --> 01:24:43,040
cool this conversation right this is all

2387
01:24:47,430 --> 01:24:44,880
this is all i mean hey at the end of

2388
01:24:48,870 --> 01:24:47,440
this i still don't know you know exactly

2389
01:24:51,030 --> 01:24:48,880
i still don't know the truth but that's

2390
01:24:53,510 --> 01:24:51,040
the point and if any of you people would

2391
01:24:54,709 --> 01:24:53,520
like to come on and tell me [\h__\h] why

2392
01:24:57,110 --> 01:24:54,719
this is

2393
01:24:58,790 --> 01:24:57,120
not true then by all means please do

2394
01:25:00,470 --> 01:24:58,800
send me an email we don't care we talk

2395
01:25:02,950 --> 01:25:00,480
to everybody it doesn't matter we're

2396
01:25:04,470 --> 01:25:02,960
hearing everybody out um you know a lot

2397
01:25:05,910 --> 01:25:04,480
of this stuff we're not professionals

2398
01:25:08,149 --> 01:25:05,920
we're not investigators we're not

2399
01:25:09,750 --> 01:25:08,159
[\h__\h] journalists we're not ufologists

2400
01:25:11,030 --> 01:25:09,760
we're none of that [\h__\h] we're regular

2401
01:25:13,110 --> 01:25:11,040
ass dudes just want to have a

2402
01:25:14,870 --> 01:25:13,120
conversation yeah so you cuts calm down

2403
01:25:17,110 --> 01:25:14,880
a little bit all right

2404
01:25:18,629 --> 01:25:17,120
all right

2405
01:25:21,350 --> 01:25:18,639
i think you're perfectly reasonable to

2406
01:25:23,910 --> 01:25:21,360
have questions right thank you

2407
01:25:24,629 --> 01:25:23,920
i i yeah it's it's

2408
01:25:27,030 --> 01:25:24,639
like

2409
01:25:29,590 --> 01:25:27,040
yeah

2410
01:25:31,590 --> 01:25:29,600
i love it where there's like this like

2411
01:25:34,470 --> 01:25:31,600
okay i'm just not i'm not calling out

2412
01:25:36,310 --> 01:25:34,480
any specific person but yeah there's

2413
01:25:38,830 --> 01:25:36,320
this like there's like this person that

2414
01:25:42,870 --> 01:25:38,840
comes out and says

2415
01:25:46,310 --> 01:25:42,880
dude [\h__\h] like everything i say

2416
01:25:47,830 --> 01:25:46,320
is like super mad like you're wrong and

2417
01:25:49,590 --> 01:25:47,840
like

2418
01:25:52,229 --> 01:25:49,600
you know that that is

2419
01:25:53,270 --> 01:25:52,239
full of

2420
01:25:55,990 --> 01:25:53,280
like

2421
01:25:58,149 --> 01:25:56,000
in in confidence in yourself

2422
01:25:59,830 --> 01:25:58,159
like you were just searching for

2423
01:26:02,149 --> 01:25:59,840
somebody to give you validation dude

2424
01:26:04,550 --> 01:26:02,159
yeah you want you want ancient as much

2425
01:26:18,070 --> 01:26:04,560
as the person you think is lying you

2426
01:26:21,350 --> 01:26:19,430
i have no problem with people thinking

2427
01:26:23,669 --> 01:26:21,360
i'm an idiot because by golly i freely

2428
01:26:25,430 --> 01:26:23,679
admit that i don't have a [\h__\h]

2429
01:26:28,149 --> 01:26:25,440
clue about

2430
01:26:30,070 --> 01:26:28,159
what reality is but by golly i want to

2431
01:26:32,470 --> 01:26:30,080
and if i can do anything to help

2432
01:26:34,629 --> 01:26:32,480
encourage

2433
01:26:36,470 --> 01:26:34,639
uh disclosure or transparency on this

2434
01:26:38,470 --> 01:26:36,480
topic then by golly i want to do it

2435
01:26:39,750 --> 01:26:38,480
right it's it's i don't have a lot to

2436
01:26:41,030 --> 01:26:39,760
gain by coming up here and talking to

2437
01:26:42,390 --> 01:26:41,040
you guys about this

2438
01:26:44,709 --> 01:26:42,400
there's a lot that i have that i'm

2439
01:26:46,709 --> 01:26:44,719
putting at risk right um

2440
01:26:48,709 --> 01:26:46,719
ben you know i i've confirmed some of my

2441
01:26:50,470 --> 01:26:48,719
employment with you it's i've got a nice

2442
01:26:52,950 --> 01:26:50,480
job right it's it's it's nothing to

2443
01:26:55,189 --> 01:26:52,960
sneeze at and nope some of my co-workers

2444
01:26:56,149 --> 01:26:55,199
are here today right i

2445
01:26:57,669 --> 01:26:56,159
i got

2446
01:27:00,229 --> 01:26:57,679
potential loss right i've been bullied

2447
01:27:02,629 --> 01:27:00,239
out of jobs before yeah so when i say

2448
01:27:05,430 --> 01:27:02,639
i'm afraid of humans not aliens it's

2449
01:27:07,270 --> 01:27:05,440
it's that kind of you know

2450
01:27:09,510 --> 01:27:07,280
man yeah anyways

2451
01:27:11,270 --> 01:27:09,520
it's another um

2452
01:27:16,229 --> 01:27:11,280
it's another

2453
01:27:21,910 --> 01:27:18,550
that a lot of experiencers

2454
01:27:23,990 --> 01:27:21,920
like i mean dude i haven't been up i

2455
01:27:25,990 --> 01:27:24,000
don't think i've been abducted joe i

2456
01:27:28,950 --> 01:27:26,000
mean dude like we've

2457
01:27:31,430 --> 01:27:28,960
who knows we've seen some [\h__\h] man

2458
01:27:33,669 --> 01:27:31,440
and if i were to ever like come out and

2459
01:27:35,990 --> 01:27:33,679
say hey i've got a really awesome story

2460
01:27:38,310 --> 01:27:36,000
to tell y'all about my abduction

2461
01:27:42,790 --> 01:27:40,629
it would uh

2462
01:27:44,470 --> 01:27:42,800
i would tell you all about by now

2463
01:27:45,270 --> 01:27:44,480
but i'd be really [\h__\h] afraid of it

2464
01:27:47,750 --> 01:27:45,280
because

2465
01:27:49,750 --> 01:27:47,760
people just people suck man people are

2466
01:27:51,430 --> 01:27:49,760
hard but that's and that's how it always

2467
01:27:52,950 --> 01:27:51,440
is right um you know i mentioned when i

2468
01:27:55,669 --> 01:27:52,960
was a reporter i would get hate mail

2469
01:27:56,870 --> 01:27:55,679
regularly just for silly stuff right so

2470
01:27:57,990 --> 01:27:56,880
i feel like i'm kind of a little bit

2471
01:27:59,910 --> 01:27:58,000
more equipped to handle some of the

2472
01:28:01,590 --> 01:27:59,920
criticism than some people by virtue of

2473
01:28:04,070 --> 01:28:01,600
the fact that i have been public in in

2474
01:28:06,390 --> 01:28:04,080
my i have had a public career before um

2475
01:28:08,149 --> 01:28:06,400
so i know a little bit about that um and

2476
01:28:09,270 --> 01:28:08,159
so i do identify as an experiencer and

2477
01:28:10,950 --> 01:28:09,280
so i'm willing to take a little bit of

2478
01:28:13,189 --> 01:28:10,960
heat um

2479
01:28:15,510 --> 01:28:13,199
but it's hard right it's it's not easy

2480
01:28:16,709 --> 01:28:15,520
uh but i i just hope that people will

2481
01:28:18,310 --> 01:28:16,719
will

2482
01:28:19,910 --> 01:28:18,320
realize that it's okay to talk about

2483
01:28:22,310 --> 01:28:19,920
these things yes there's always going to

2484
01:28:24,550 --> 01:28:22,320
be skeptics and that's okay it's it's

2485
01:28:27,350 --> 01:28:24,560
healthy to be skeptical right we should

2486
01:28:29,590 --> 01:28:27,360
be skeptical the bowl of salt is is i

2487
01:28:31,669 --> 01:28:29,600
think a great pun for

2488
01:28:33,189 --> 01:28:31,679
be skeptical when you've only got one

2489
01:28:35,350 --> 01:28:33,199
source saying something

2490
01:28:37,110 --> 01:28:35,360
it's okay to be skeptical about it now

2491
01:28:38,950 --> 01:28:37,120
maybe they they are convincing right and

2492
01:28:41,590 --> 01:28:38,960
and i'm here to tell the facts about

2493
01:28:44,149 --> 01:28:41,600
myself uh

2494
01:28:45,990 --> 01:28:44,159
matt yeah sorry no more chat yeah stay

2495
01:28:48,390 --> 01:28:46,000
on course

2496
01:28:49,510 --> 01:28:48,400
eyes up here

2497
01:28:52,149 --> 01:28:49,520
um

2498
01:28:53,990 --> 01:28:52,159
so yeah it's you know i think that we i

2499
01:28:55,990 --> 01:28:54,000
think that the experience or testimonies

2500
01:28:57,430 --> 01:28:56,000
are important and i think that the

2501
01:28:59,189 --> 01:28:57,440
eyewitnesses like the pilots are

2502
01:29:00,950 --> 01:28:59,199
important i hope they keep coming

2503
01:29:02,870 --> 01:29:00,960
forward i think they've had enough

2504
01:29:04,709 --> 01:29:02,880
evidence right now to come forward i

2505
01:29:06,550 --> 01:29:04,719
hope they do keep coming forward i hope

2506
01:29:08,550 --> 01:29:06,560
others come forward and say this there's

2507
01:29:12,229 --> 01:29:08,560
something strange going on what's havana

2508
01:29:14,229 --> 01:29:12,239
syndrome who knows right um well

2509
01:29:15,910 --> 01:29:14,239
yeah anyways dude i hate that i'm

2510
01:29:17,910 --> 01:29:15,920
averaging my mom's face i just want to

2511
01:29:23,510 --> 01:29:17,920
like i want to go hard on

2512
01:29:32,709 --> 01:29:27,430
he goes uh uh lmao at the virginity in

2513
01:29:35,830 --> 01:29:34,629
and to be fair one oh the traveler right

2514
01:29:37,910 --> 01:29:35,840
pissed me off because he was like

2515
01:29:40,470 --> 01:29:37,920
larping on top of my thing which i

2516
01:29:43,270 --> 01:29:40,480
didn't know how to process already and i

2517
01:29:44,709 --> 01:29:43,280
so yeah i you know it's i was upset at

2518
01:29:47,030 --> 01:29:44,719
some of the larpers but like what the

2519
01:29:48,390 --> 01:29:47,040
[\h__\h] can i do i'm telling like i'm

2520
01:29:50,390 --> 01:29:48,400
telling people i'm an abductee i don't

2521
01:29:52,149 --> 01:29:50,400
know if i am or not who knows if they

2522
01:29:54,310 --> 01:29:52,159
can mind wipe you who knows how do i

2523
01:29:56,070 --> 01:29:54,320
prove it right

2524
01:29:58,229 --> 01:29:56,080
so it was one of those things but i was

2525
01:29:59,510 --> 01:29:58,239
upset at the traveler and

2526
01:30:01,590 --> 01:29:59,520
it was pretty clear to me that it was a

2527
01:30:03,830 --> 01:30:01,600
lark because i knew who i was and i knew

2528
01:30:07,270 --> 01:30:03,840
he was bullshitting and it spawned a

2529
01:30:09,669 --> 01:30:07,280
whole subreddit and a discord

2530
01:30:12,470 --> 01:30:09,679
manager okay so we're out of time for

2531
01:30:14,870 --> 01:30:12,480
like i mean if we want any constructive

2532
01:30:17,750 --> 01:30:14,880
uh like whatever

2533
01:30:19,510 --> 01:30:17,760
like for the taa story dude like i know

2534
01:30:21,669 --> 01:30:19,520
there's so much more but i want to hear

2535
01:30:23,189 --> 01:30:21,679
about you man i want to hear about your

2536
01:30:25,270 --> 01:30:23,199
your experience

2537
01:30:26,550 --> 01:30:25,280
joe you you started off with with the

2538
01:30:27,990 --> 01:30:26,560
ghost story

2539
01:30:29,030 --> 01:30:28,000
uh uh

2540
01:30:31,189 --> 01:30:29,040
thoreau

2541
01:30:33,750 --> 01:30:31,199
you started off with the ghost story

2542
01:30:35,590 --> 01:30:33,760
i kind of want to transition into you as

2543
01:30:37,510 --> 01:30:35,600
a person man like

2544
01:30:40,070 --> 01:30:37,520
sure i know we kind of touched uh well

2545
01:30:41,830 --> 01:30:40,080
but but what is your your relationship

2546
01:30:43,830 --> 01:30:41,840
with ufos

2547
01:30:46,229 --> 01:30:43,840
aliens oh man

2548
01:30:48,550 --> 01:30:46,239
i so well i love you at the topic of

2549
01:30:50,149 --> 01:30:48,560
ufos and aliens ask brother and cousin

2550
01:30:51,910 --> 01:30:50,159
right they they get tired of me talking

2551
01:30:53,430 --> 01:30:51,920
about it and because it's it's an

2552
01:30:54,870 --> 01:30:53,440
interest in mine uh and i talk with my

2553
01:30:56,470 --> 01:30:54,880
therapist about it a lot it's a big

2554
01:30:59,669 --> 01:30:56,480
driver in my

2555
01:31:01,669 --> 01:30:59,679
my life right uh the unknown um

2556
01:31:03,990 --> 01:31:01,679
yeah i love i love aliens and ufos and

2557
01:31:06,310 --> 01:31:04,000
what it represents and uh you know the

2558
01:31:08,709 --> 01:31:06,320
potential progress for humanity that it

2559
01:31:10,870 --> 01:31:08,719
signals is on the horizon if if it's

2560
01:31:14,390 --> 01:31:10,880
true and you know we've got folks like

2561
01:31:16,950 --> 01:31:14,400
the galileo project like uapx we got uh

2562
01:31:19,110 --> 01:31:16,960
sky 360 which by the way have onboarded

2563
01:31:21,750 --> 01:31:19,120
with as uh to try to to contribute to

2564
01:31:23,350 --> 01:31:21,760
some of these software efforts right um

2565
01:31:24,709 --> 01:31:23,360
uh so i you know these these

2566
01:31:27,189 --> 01:31:24,719
organizations that i think are gonna

2567
01:31:29,030 --> 01:31:27,199
have proof that this stuff is real what

2568
01:31:31,189 --> 01:31:29,040
does it mean for humans we're already

2569
01:31:32,390 --> 01:31:31,199
tapping into this is all a part of my

2570
01:31:33,830 --> 01:31:32,400
interest right these are what i think

2571
01:31:35,990 --> 01:31:33,840
this is what i think about in my spare

2572
01:31:37,669 --> 01:31:36,000
time elon musk has got neural link and

2573
01:31:39,990 --> 01:31:37,679
you have direct brain to computer

2574
01:31:41,510 --> 01:31:40,000
interfaces when you can scroll

2575
01:31:43,030 --> 01:31:41,520
through this

2576
01:31:44,709 --> 01:31:43,040
the words on the screen without with

2577
01:31:46,870 --> 01:31:44,719
just thinking it does that mean the

2578
01:31:48,550 --> 01:31:46,880
computer is part of your body what does

2579
01:31:50,709 --> 01:31:48,560
that mean

2580
01:31:52,790 --> 01:31:50,719
what does it mean uh and that's what i

2581
01:31:53,910 --> 01:31:52,800
think about that's what drives me um and

2582
01:31:55,830 --> 01:31:53,920
when i think about telepathic

2583
01:31:59,030 --> 01:31:55,840
communication with aliens what does that

2584
01:32:02,550 --> 01:31:59,040
mean right and my my mind just

2585
01:32:04,790 --> 01:32:02,560
investigates it adhds down these rabbit

2586
01:32:07,350 --> 01:32:04,800
holes and i scare the [\h__\h] out of myself

2587
01:32:09,510 --> 01:32:07,360
sometimes uh but sometimes i hop in onto

2588
01:32:12,310 --> 01:32:09,520
something that i think is actually maybe

2589
01:32:13,910 --> 01:32:12,320
something there right uh and so i i hope

2590
01:32:16,070 --> 01:32:13,920
that being able to talk about this stuff

2591
01:32:18,870 --> 01:32:16,080
lets me talk about this stuff right uh

2592
01:32:21,110 --> 01:32:18,880
and it excites me astrophysics right and

2593
01:32:23,830 --> 01:32:21,120
aeronautics spacex is doing amazing

2594
01:32:26,229 --> 01:32:23,840
things i love spacex fun fact i emailed

2595
01:32:28,629 --> 01:32:26,239
elon musk in 2012 or something i was

2596
01:32:30,149 --> 01:32:28,639
like can i be an investor

2597
01:32:32,310 --> 01:32:30,159
i was like if i can't just get 10 bucks

2598
01:32:35,030 --> 01:32:32,320
in into spacex i'll be i'll be set for

2599
01:32:39,189 --> 01:32:35,040
life i later invested in tesla right uh

2600
01:32:42,790 --> 01:32:40,390
sorry

2601
01:32:44,470 --> 01:32:42,800
i like every anytime we want to be like

2602
01:32:45,590 --> 01:32:44,480
super nerdy about something we close our

2603
01:32:47,830 --> 01:32:45,600
nose

2604
01:32:50,229 --> 01:32:47,840
oh yeah

2605
01:32:51,830 --> 01:32:50,239
lester musk i'd like to tell you

2606
01:32:53,189 --> 01:32:51,840
something

2607
01:32:56,149 --> 01:32:53,199
dude

2608
01:32:58,470 --> 01:32:56,159
i hate my voice personally and uh

2609
01:32:59,750 --> 01:32:58,480
whenever i go to the drive-through like

2610
01:33:01,430 --> 01:32:59,760
the the person at the drive-thru always

2611
01:33:03,270 --> 01:33:01,440
goes yes ma'am what else can i get you

2612
01:33:05,430 --> 01:33:03,280
and i'm like i'm a guy

2613
01:33:08,390 --> 01:33:05,440
for crying out loud

2614
01:33:10,790 --> 01:33:08,400
yeah that is insane yeah same thing you

2615
01:33:13,750 --> 01:33:10,800
like sauce with that ma'am

2616
01:33:17,910 --> 01:33:13,760
oh god damn it like shower down like do

2617
01:33:19,110 --> 01:33:17,920
you want to do any hot sauce ma'am

2618
01:33:22,390 --> 01:33:19,120
no

2619
01:33:24,550 --> 01:33:22,400
and i think about my experience as a

2620
01:33:26,149 --> 01:33:24,560
thorough alien and i did i really did

2621
01:33:27,910 --> 01:33:26,159
feel kind of bad because i put things in

2622
01:33:30,070 --> 01:33:27,920
the story i don't think i was abducted

2623
01:33:31,189 --> 01:33:30,080
right i don't think i was but i framed

2624
01:33:32,870 --> 01:33:31,199
things

2625
01:33:34,550 --> 01:33:32,880
i i hoped to give enough clues like the

2626
01:33:35,830 --> 01:33:34,560
bowl of salt and putting abduction in

2627
01:33:37,110 --> 01:33:35,840
quotes right

2628
01:33:38,790 --> 01:33:37,120
and i said it's not like you were

2629
01:33:41,189 --> 01:33:38,800
abducted i literally said it right it's

2630
01:33:43,350 --> 01:33:41,199
not really like you're abducted but you

2631
01:33:44,870 --> 01:33:43,360
and to me that kind of does explain the

2632
01:33:46,470 --> 01:33:44,880
phenomenon

2633
01:33:48,629 --> 01:33:46,480
when these things happen

2634
01:33:51,430 --> 01:33:48,639
you're interested i'm intrigued

2635
01:33:54,070 --> 01:33:51,440
and i'm afraid and oh my god what

2636
01:33:55,750 --> 01:33:54,080
[\h__\h] thought was that right

2637
01:33:57,030 --> 01:33:55,760
and it's frightening but at the same

2638
01:33:58,790 --> 01:33:57,040
time it's

2639
01:34:00,870 --> 01:33:58,800
this is a new frontier that has opened

2640
01:34:03,350 --> 01:34:00,880
up we have no idea what's out there

2641
01:34:05,669 --> 01:34:03,360
there are threats there are friends

2642
01:34:07,270 --> 01:34:05,679
there are all kinds of things right and

2643
01:34:09,510 --> 01:34:07,280
we can go and explore and find these

2644
01:34:11,110 --> 01:34:09,520
things right that's what excites me yeah

2645
01:34:13,750 --> 01:34:11,120
so yeah

2646
01:34:15,590 --> 01:34:13,760
dude i love that see like there's so

2647
01:34:17,830 --> 01:34:15,600
many uh

2648
01:34:21,189 --> 01:34:17,840
there's so many people within the last

2649
01:34:22,870 --> 01:34:21,199
couple of years that either became like

2650
01:34:25,110 --> 01:34:22,880
closeted

2651
01:34:27,430 --> 01:34:25,120
ufo nuts yeah

2652
01:34:28,310 --> 01:34:27,440
and then the the government comes out

2653
01:34:32,070 --> 01:34:28,320
and

2654
01:34:33,990 --> 01:34:32,080
yeah exactly perfect gigs yes great dude

2655
01:34:36,709 --> 01:34:34,000
uh that that have come out of the

2656
01:34:39,030 --> 01:34:36,719
woodwork and now

2657
01:34:41,830 --> 01:34:39,040
it it it was like super

2658
01:34:44,830 --> 01:34:41,840
super light super light and positive

2659
01:34:47,270 --> 01:34:44,840
like like this past summer right

2660
01:34:49,189 --> 01:34:47,280
yeah lot of fun it was so much fun and

2661
01:34:51,030 --> 01:34:49,199
like lately everybody's like

2662
01:34:53,109 --> 01:34:51,040
second guessing themselves and yeah i'm

2663
01:34:54,550 --> 01:34:53,119
saying that in a very positive way we

2664
01:34:56,709 --> 01:34:54,560
all know what i'm talking about like

2665
01:35:00,470 --> 01:34:56,719
yeah there's some negativity going on

2666
01:35:03,109 --> 01:35:00,480
that is unnecessary and well yeah it's

2667
01:35:05,030 --> 01:35:03,119
not helping anything like the thing is

2668
01:35:06,550 --> 01:35:05,040
we can disagree i think we can disagree

2669
01:35:07,750 --> 01:35:06,560
and i think this is one of the things

2670
01:35:10,310 --> 01:35:07,760
that i hoped we could take away from

2671
01:35:12,229 --> 01:35:10,320
throw alien right it's okay to disagree

2672
01:35:15,270 --> 01:35:12,239
it's okay to think somebody's an idiot

2673
01:35:17,430 --> 01:35:15,280
maybe don't say it right uh you know you

2674
01:35:18,790 --> 01:35:17,440
can but you're just wasting your time

2675
01:35:19,669 --> 01:35:18,800
and you're not doing any good right

2676
01:35:21,990 --> 01:35:19,679
you're not

2677
01:35:24,390 --> 01:35:22,000
if you really care about it and you

2678
01:35:26,950 --> 01:35:24,400
don't if you put the personalities aside

2679
01:35:28,709 --> 01:35:26,960
right if you care about the topic

2680
01:35:30,310 --> 01:35:28,719
what is the evidence right and that's

2681
01:35:31,669 --> 01:35:30,320
the question of thorough alien where is

2682
01:35:34,310 --> 01:35:31,679
the evidence well the evidence is right

2683
01:35:36,229 --> 01:35:34,320
there the evidence is that it is right i

2684
01:35:39,270 --> 01:35:36,239
the proof that i have a son is that well

2685
01:35:42,070 --> 01:35:39,280
i have a son uh you know

2686
01:35:43,510 --> 01:35:42,080
it's the fact of reality sure i can say

2687
01:35:45,510 --> 01:35:43,520
look this is my son but one of my son

2688
01:35:48,629 --> 01:35:45,520
dies right does that still make me a

2689
01:35:50,870 --> 01:35:48,639
father i think about these things um so

2690
01:35:51,669 --> 01:35:50,880
yeah you know

2691
01:35:54,229 --> 01:35:51,679
we

2692
01:35:56,790 --> 01:35:54,239
yeah i mean so the fact of the matter is

2693
01:35:58,790 --> 01:35:56,800
the fact of the matter um and yeah i you

2694
01:36:00,470 --> 01:35:58,800
know i hope we i think we can discover

2695
01:36:03,350 --> 01:36:00,480
some some very exciting things in the

2696
01:36:05,590 --> 01:36:03,360
future i hope we can uh i don't know i

2697
01:36:07,430 --> 01:36:05,600
have no idea but uh but yeah i think we

2698
01:36:09,189 --> 01:36:07,440
will man i definitely learned how to be

2699
01:36:10,470 --> 01:36:09,199
skeptical but diligent and i think we're

2700
01:36:13,030 --> 01:36:10,480
going to move i think we're going to go

2701
01:36:14,390 --> 01:36:13,040
places as a species i hope so anyways

2702
01:36:17,189 --> 01:36:14,400
hello yes

2703
01:36:19,590 --> 01:36:17,199
yes man the positivity we need to bring

2704
01:36:22,310 --> 01:36:19,600
back that positivity you know

2705
01:36:24,149 --> 01:36:22,320
it's okay to disagree the curiosity

2706
01:36:26,709 --> 01:36:24,159
of it all like that's what brings us

2707
01:36:28,629 --> 01:36:26,719
together right like yeah

2708
01:36:30,070 --> 01:36:28,639
do you know one person that knows all

2709
01:36:32,790 --> 01:36:30,080
the answers

2710
01:36:35,109 --> 01:36:32,800
no science doesn't religion doesn't

2711
01:36:36,870 --> 01:36:35,119
well we're all still guessing i mean in

2712
01:36:38,470 --> 01:36:36,880
the whole span of time i mean we haven't

2713
01:36:40,550 --> 01:36:38,480
been here very long so you know there's

2714
01:36:43,430 --> 01:36:40,560
a lot out there we don't know anything

2715
01:36:47,510 --> 01:36:43,440
so it's so it's so like cliche to say

2716
01:36:50,550 --> 01:36:47,520
but like if we all work together right

2717
01:36:54,950 --> 01:36:52,470
you know what i mean

2718
01:36:56,390 --> 01:36:54,960
i love it we're gonna we're gonna

2719
01:36:58,390 --> 01:36:56,400
sit around the campfire we're gonna hate

2720
01:37:00,870 --> 01:36:58,400
each other but all be okay with each

2721
01:37:02,870 --> 01:37:00,880
other and sing kubaya and

2722
01:37:04,550 --> 01:37:02,880
let bai you know let's let's all be

2723
01:37:06,470 --> 01:37:04,560
fools together right we're we're

2724
01:37:08,229 --> 01:37:06,480
figuring this out as we go let's have

2725
01:37:09,590 --> 01:37:08,239
charity towards each other

2726
01:37:10,709 --> 01:37:09,600
we don't have to agree with each other

2727
01:37:12,550 --> 01:37:10,719
but we don't know each other's

2728
01:37:14,149 --> 01:37:12,560
experience

2729
01:37:15,510 --> 01:37:14,159
sometimes they sound crazy i know i've

2730
01:37:16,950 --> 01:37:15,520
been through some crazy things that i

2731
01:37:20,470 --> 01:37:16,960
wouldn't believe if i were other people

2732
01:37:22,470 --> 01:37:20,480
i i i just wouldn't i'm i just wouldn't

2733
01:37:24,629 --> 01:37:22,480
but it's okay to not believe right and

2734
01:37:26,470 --> 01:37:24,639
it's okay to believe and

2735
01:37:27,270 --> 01:37:26,480
once you realize that everything else is

2736
01:37:29,189 --> 01:37:27,280
like

2737
01:37:32,870 --> 01:37:29,199
well then let's figure it out

2738
01:37:35,910 --> 01:37:32,880
yeah yeah yeah you said something throw

2739
01:37:37,910 --> 01:37:35,920
that that that i've been thinking about

2740
01:37:40,390 --> 01:37:37,920
past couple weeks

2741
01:37:41,910 --> 01:37:40,400
what is it what is a fool

2742
01:37:44,149 --> 01:37:41,920
that's a good question that's one of me

2743
01:37:45,830 --> 01:37:44,159
and joe's favorite words food

2744
01:37:47,030 --> 01:37:45,840
full yeah

2745
01:37:49,350 --> 01:37:47,040
well it can mean a lot of things right

2746
01:37:51,910 --> 01:37:49,360
you're free to me it's interested

2747
01:37:53,510 --> 01:37:51,920
yeah it's a slang it's a it's yeah a

2748
01:37:55,750 --> 01:37:53,520
full but a fool like yeah what would the

2749
01:37:57,990 --> 01:37:55,760
dictionary say well that's one way to

2750
01:38:00,229 --> 01:37:58,000
define it what do words mean right

2751
01:38:02,229 --> 01:38:00,239
what what is what what are they what is

2752
01:38:04,790 --> 01:38:02,239
even a word right what is a word

2753
01:38:07,270 --> 01:38:04,800
fundamentally it's a frequency taking up

2754
01:38:08,790 --> 01:38:07,280
empty space it's a vibration

2755
01:38:10,550 --> 01:38:08,800
right

2756
01:38:12,310 --> 01:38:10,560
it's a vibration through the air look

2757
01:38:14,229 --> 01:38:12,320
and you can hear me remotely through

2758
01:38:16,550 --> 01:38:14,239
technology

2759
01:38:18,310 --> 01:38:16,560
but i am vibrating the air right here

2760
01:38:20,950 --> 01:38:18,320
that's what this thing helps me do it

2761
01:38:22,310 --> 01:38:20,960
converts it to digital right yeah

2762
01:38:24,790 --> 01:38:22,320
what is what is a word what does

2763
01:38:27,430 --> 01:38:24,800
anything mean right

2764
01:38:29,590 --> 01:38:27,440
at this point it's kind of crazy right

2765
01:38:33,590 --> 01:38:29,600
like to try to break down anything try

2766
01:38:35,030 --> 01:38:33,600
to explain to somebody like uh oh dude

2767
01:38:36,790 --> 01:38:35,040
what's that like

2768
01:38:39,430 --> 01:38:36,800
famous disney movie

2769
01:38:40,870 --> 01:38:39,440
it's like it's got the guy from tool

2770
01:38:45,510 --> 01:38:40,880
tool guy

2771
01:38:50,550 --> 01:38:47,990
nightmare before christmas no it's from

2772
01:38:53,430 --> 01:38:50,560
the santa claus uh

2773
01:38:56,310 --> 01:38:53,440
ed tim allen tim allen it's got tim

2774
01:38:58,629 --> 01:38:56,320
allen but it's about that he finds a kid

2775
01:39:00,709 --> 01:38:58,639
that's like living in the woods man and

2776
01:39:04,709 --> 01:39:00,719
he's got the magic dragon and then the

2777
01:39:05,990 --> 01:39:04,719
castle the dog oh oh you know oh [\h__\h]

2778
01:39:08,229 --> 01:39:06,000
come on come on come on come on come on

2779
01:39:09,910 --> 01:39:08,239
come on

2780
01:39:12,310 --> 01:39:09,920
like he was fat or something like

2781
01:39:15,750 --> 01:39:12,320
engaged

2782
01:39:17,990 --> 01:39:15,760
oh is that santa no that's all right

2783
01:39:20,310 --> 01:39:18,000
yeah because him and him and his old

2784
01:39:22,870 --> 01:39:20,320
lady they separated and she had the kid

2785
01:39:23,750 --> 01:39:22,880
out in the amazon and so he grew up out

2786
01:39:25,270 --> 01:39:23,760
there

2787
01:39:27,750 --> 01:39:25,280
jonathan taylor thomas was in that movie

2788
01:39:30,870 --> 01:39:27,760
i think yeah what was that it was he was

2789
01:39:32,470 --> 01:39:30,880
that him the american classic

2790
01:39:33,430 --> 01:39:32,480
jonathan timberlake

2791
01:39:35,750 --> 01:39:33,440
taylor doctor

2792
01:39:37,990 --> 01:39:35,760
yes tool time right

2793
01:39:43,669 --> 01:39:38,000
thank you tool time as well that is it

2794
01:39:47,430 --> 01:39:44,550
look

2795
01:39:49,189 --> 01:39:47,440
all this this show is about facts okay

2796
01:39:52,629 --> 01:39:49,199
like it's very serious

2797
01:39:56,629 --> 01:39:54,470
it's very serious

2798
01:39:57,750 --> 01:39:56,639
and we're not we're not [\h__\h] around

2799
01:39:59,109 --> 01:39:57,760
dude

2800
01:40:01,669 --> 01:39:59,119
uh but

2801
01:40:02,790 --> 01:40:01,679
so so so like somebody coming from uh

2802
01:40:09,350 --> 01:40:02,800
from

2803
01:40:10,629 --> 01:40:09,360
culture growing up and and in a in a

2804
01:40:12,629 --> 01:40:10,639
culture

2805
01:40:14,229 --> 01:40:12,639
million miles away that has no idea

2806
01:40:18,390 --> 01:40:14,239
about

2807
01:40:20,390 --> 01:40:18,400
dude there's tribes right like

2808
01:40:22,390 --> 01:40:20,400
i'll mention my new subreddit my new

2809
01:40:24,550 --> 01:40:22,400
reddit name people can hate it whatever

2810
01:40:26,550 --> 01:40:24,560
it doesn't matter to me but i it's i am

2811
01:40:28,390 --> 01:40:26,560
a tribesman right because what are we

2812
01:40:29,750 --> 01:40:28,400
but tribesmen

2813
01:40:32,229 --> 01:40:29,760
encountering this

2814
01:40:34,070 --> 01:40:32,239
technology in the sky right what's that

2815
01:40:36,229 --> 01:40:34,080
there's tribes people all over the place

2816
01:40:37,910 --> 01:40:36,239
yeah that see our planes every day what

2817
01:40:39,750 --> 01:40:37,920
do they worship those things what's an

2818
01:40:40,950 --> 01:40:39,760
idol

2819
01:40:43,590 --> 01:40:40,960
you know yes

2820
01:40:45,189 --> 01:40:43,600
dude you you saved me from

2821
01:40:46,310 --> 01:40:45,199
that's exactly where i was going with

2822
01:40:48,470 --> 01:40:46,320
that thank you

2823
01:40:51,350 --> 01:40:48,480
yeah no

2824
01:40:54,229 --> 01:40:51,360
man but like the most simple aspect of

2825
01:40:56,550 --> 01:40:54,239
it it's like dude we no one knows [\h__\h]

2826
01:40:59,030 --> 01:40:56,560
okay we're all tribesmen it doesn't

2827
01:41:00,310 --> 01:40:59,040
matter matter where you're born or where

2828
01:41:02,629 --> 01:41:00,320
you're at

2829
01:41:05,430 --> 01:41:02,639
yeah are are a

2830
01:41:09,109 --> 01:41:05,440
cessna plane that flies over once and we

2831
01:41:10,390 --> 01:41:09,119
we idolize it is our ufo our our

2832
01:41:12,070 --> 01:41:10,400
our uap

2833
01:41:13,590 --> 01:41:12,080
we're like hey yeah yeah that kind of

2834
01:41:16,070 --> 01:41:13,600
looks like a [\h__\h] bird and that's why

2835
01:41:17,270 --> 01:41:16,080
we drew it as a bird and like we have

2836
01:41:19,750 --> 01:41:17,280
these like

2837
01:41:22,470 --> 01:41:19,760
these dudes that were more powerful than

2838
01:41:23,669 --> 01:41:22,480
us that like knew a lot more about these

2839
01:41:26,870 --> 01:41:23,679
birds so we

2840
01:41:29,189 --> 01:41:26,880
made them half man have bird

2841
01:41:31,590 --> 01:41:29,199
so you would understand there's a lot of

2842
01:41:33,510 --> 01:41:31,600
cool ancient alien stuff i don't i i

2843
01:41:34,950 --> 01:41:33,520
actually not long ago said i believe

2844
01:41:36,229 --> 01:41:34,960
that ancient aliens on history channel

2845
01:41:38,229 --> 01:41:36,239
was kind of like the foundation of the

2846
01:41:39,430 --> 01:41:38,239
modern conspiracy theory movement i've

2847
01:41:40,950 --> 01:41:39,440
changed right that's part of the whole

2848
01:41:42,470 --> 01:41:40,960
change i'm like oh [\h__\h]

2849
01:41:43,990 --> 01:41:42,480
maybe there's something to ancient

2850
01:41:45,270 --> 01:41:44,000
aliens right maybe they did come out of

2851
01:41:47,270 --> 01:41:45,280
the sky and

2852
01:41:49,030 --> 01:41:47,280
maybe that's what the the four creatures

2853
01:41:51,189 --> 01:41:49,040
in the bible are maybe that

2854
01:41:53,189 --> 01:41:51,199
the eagle for the head and the body of a

2855
01:41:54,790 --> 01:41:53,199
man right or that's but we've got these

2856
01:41:56,870 --> 01:41:54,800
things throughout all of our history

2857
01:41:58,310 --> 01:41:56,880
right like well maybe there's something

2858
01:42:00,629 --> 01:41:58,320
to it when i see patterns like that i

2859
01:42:02,149 --> 01:42:00,639
start to think well maybe there's

2860
01:42:02,950 --> 01:42:02,159
they're all observing the same thing

2861
01:42:04,950 --> 01:42:02,960
right

2862
01:42:06,950 --> 01:42:04,960
so yeah we don't know can i tell you

2863
01:42:10,390 --> 01:42:06,960
about like a really lame thought that i

2864
01:42:11,910 --> 01:42:10,400
had like two days ago so we know that uh

2865
01:42:14,550 --> 01:42:11,920
in the egyptian culture we have the

2866
01:42:16,550 --> 01:42:14,560
anubis which is the the dog head and

2867
01:42:17,430 --> 01:42:16,560
then we have the cat

2868
01:42:21,750 --> 01:42:17,440
i don't

2869
01:42:24,790 --> 01:42:21,760
cat head god um

2870
01:42:26,390 --> 01:42:24,800
maybe there's not even a cat head dog

2871
01:42:30,470 --> 01:42:26,400
something like that yeah but there's

2872
01:42:32,070 --> 01:42:30,480
cats were like revered right

2873
01:42:35,590 --> 01:42:32,080
what's the most like

2874
01:42:38,229 --> 01:42:35,600
powerful uh or or most famous meme on

2875
01:42:40,070 --> 01:42:38,239
the internet this cat's cat that's true

2876
01:42:42,470 --> 01:42:40,080
there's so many cats dude what if we're

2877
01:42:44,390 --> 01:42:42,480
just repeating history you know dude

2878
01:42:45,910 --> 01:42:44,400
what if what if what if religion was

2879
01:42:48,390 --> 01:42:45,920
just a giant meme right what if that's

2880
01:42:51,189 --> 01:42:48,400
how they communicate cats are cute dogs

2881
01:42:53,270 --> 01:42:51,199
are cute i i i think that's very

2882
01:42:55,430 --> 01:42:53,280
possible dude you know i was telling i

2883
01:42:57,109 --> 01:42:55,440
was telling ben last week dude that like

2884
01:42:58,950 --> 01:42:57,119
i feel like maybe all these religions

2885
01:43:01,510 --> 01:42:58,960
and [\h__\h] you know like are just

2886
01:43:02,790 --> 01:43:01,520
they're just little pieces of like

2887
01:43:04,149 --> 01:43:02,800
something yeah

2888
01:43:05,669 --> 01:43:04,159
you know like something happened they

2889
01:43:07,590 --> 01:43:05,679
were like oh [\h__\h] that's crazy that's

2890
01:43:09,109 --> 01:43:07,600
probably god right and then like

2891
01:43:11,750 --> 01:43:09,119
thousands of years later something else

2892
01:43:13,189 --> 01:43:11,760
happens and they were like holy [\h__\h]

2893
01:43:15,030 --> 01:43:13,199
must have been god

2894
01:43:16,870 --> 01:43:15,040
you know and we just did that multiple

2895
01:43:18,790 --> 01:43:16,880
times throughout history

2896
01:43:20,390 --> 01:43:18,800
who knows i remember so i remember being

2897
01:43:22,629 --> 01:43:20,400
in a sociology class in college i

2898
01:43:24,790 --> 01:43:22,639
actually in thor alien story i i said

2899
01:43:25,750 --> 01:43:24,800
that i did not graduate college um i did

2900
01:43:27,430 --> 01:43:25,760
i was actually the first person in my

2901
01:43:28,790 --> 01:43:27,440
college in my family to graduate college

2902
01:43:32,070 --> 01:43:28,800
i reversed that in the story right it

2903
01:43:33,750 --> 01:43:32,080
was the obfuscation of my life um but uh

2904
01:43:34,629 --> 01:43:33,760
i was in a sociology class in college

2905
01:43:37,430 --> 01:43:34,639
and

2906
01:43:40,070 --> 01:43:37,440
the teacher was like every religion has

2907
01:43:42,229 --> 01:43:40,080
a flood story it's proof that they're

2908
01:43:43,590 --> 01:43:42,239
none of it's real and they all made up

2909
01:43:45,669 --> 01:43:43,600
but i thought from a different

2910
01:43:48,390 --> 01:43:45,679
perspective i thought

2911
01:43:49,590 --> 01:43:48,400
if multiple people are saying the same

2912
01:43:51,270 --> 01:43:49,600
thing

2913
01:43:52,550 --> 01:43:51,280
it doesn't make sense that they're all

2914
01:43:53,750 --> 01:43:52,560
making it up

2915
01:43:56,709 --> 01:43:53,760
right

2916
01:43:58,390 --> 01:43:56,719
and so i thought maybe the flood maybe

2917
01:44:00,149 --> 01:43:58,400
it really did happen maybe it isn't

2918
01:44:01,830 --> 01:44:00,159
maybe the earth is a noah's ark right

2919
01:44:04,070 --> 01:44:01,840
it's a traveling spaceship we travel

2920
01:44:06,790 --> 01:44:04,080
through space maybe earth itself is a

2921
01:44:09,189 --> 01:44:06,800
space is a spaceship and the dna is

2922
01:44:11,430 --> 01:44:09,199
noah's ark right uh who knows i don't

2923
01:44:13,030 --> 01:44:11,440
know uh but yeah so

2924
01:44:14,790 --> 01:44:13,040
these these are all the thoughts that go

2925
01:44:16,950 --> 01:44:14,800
through my brain every almost every day

2926
01:44:18,149 --> 01:44:16,960
that i talk with my therapist about i

2927
01:44:20,229 --> 01:44:18,159
love it i told her i was gonna do this

2928
01:44:21,030 --> 01:44:20,239
podcast uh by the way and she was like

2929
01:44:23,109 --> 01:44:21,040
okay

2930
01:44:25,590 --> 01:44:23,119
get ready

2931
01:44:28,310 --> 01:44:25,600
yeah she she was she was like just just

2932
01:44:30,629 --> 01:44:28,320
be safe so yeah

2933
01:44:32,870 --> 01:44:30,639
what i what i find beautiful about that

2934
01:44:34,709 --> 01:44:32,880
is like what does she mean by being safe

2935
01:44:35,990 --> 01:44:34,719
it's it's like being physical safety

2936
01:44:37,750 --> 01:44:36,000
right and i had told her about some of

2937
01:44:39,270 --> 01:44:37,760
my fears because

2938
01:44:40,709 --> 01:44:39,280
anybody can do anything on the internet

2939
01:44:44,390 --> 01:44:40,719
right and if they see your story and

2940
01:44:47,990 --> 01:44:44,400
they say ah you wrote a dog gone

2941
01:44:50,070 --> 01:44:48,000
uh a dog gone lie larp son of a [\h__\h]

2942
01:44:52,470 --> 01:44:50,080
you're gonna i'm gonna get you i'm gonna

2943
01:44:56,229 --> 01:44:52,480
come to your house cause people do that

2944
01:44:57,590 --> 01:44:56,239
now right they call in swats or all

2945
01:45:01,030 --> 01:44:57,600
manner of crazy things that are

2946
01:45:03,109 --> 01:45:01,040
dangerous right um and so sorry i don't

2947
01:45:04,229 --> 01:45:03,119
remember what's going with that but

2948
01:45:04,950 --> 01:45:04,239
something

2949
01:45:06,310 --> 01:45:04,960
yeah

2950
01:45:10,310 --> 01:45:06,320
sometimes

2951
01:45:12,709 --> 01:45:10,320
brought this into the real world like

2952
01:45:15,430 --> 01:45:12,719
with the swat thing right like boxing

2953
01:45:17,270 --> 01:45:15,440
and [\h__\h] like that that sucks man

2954
01:45:19,109 --> 01:45:17,280
but it's a real phenomenon and coming

2955
01:45:20,550 --> 01:45:19,119
out like this is hard because those are

2956
01:45:21,990 --> 01:45:20,560
real threats right

2957
01:45:23,830 --> 01:45:22,000
you know what sucks even worse is the

2958
01:45:26,390 --> 01:45:23,840
karma that comes after somebody that

2959
01:45:27,189 --> 01:45:26,400
swat somebody else dude that's true

2960
01:45:29,189 --> 01:45:27,199
that's

2961
01:45:30,629 --> 01:45:29,199
also true and it's a crime it's a crime

2962
01:45:32,390 --> 01:45:30,639
a false report of a crime is a crime

2963
01:45:34,310 --> 01:45:32,400
right yeah um but yeah

2964
01:45:36,590 --> 01:45:34,320
if you don't pay for it in this life you

2965
01:45:39,750 --> 01:45:36,600
pay for it in the next hey

2966
01:45:41,910 --> 01:45:39,760
d-y-n-b-d once wanted to say that uh

2967
01:45:44,310 --> 01:45:41,920
your writing was brilliant by the way

2968
01:45:47,310 --> 01:45:44,320
did he really oh that's so nice so i

2969
01:45:50,229 --> 01:45:47,320
know that oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

2970
01:45:52,070 --> 01:45:50,239
d-y-n-d-b he said that the real throw

2971
01:45:53,590 --> 01:45:52,080
alien store writing was brilliant yeah

2972
01:45:55,910 --> 01:45:53,600
that's a great compliment i agree with

2973
01:45:57,590 --> 01:45:55,920
you actually he loves your story yeah i

2974
01:45:59,590 --> 01:45:57,600
agree with him i think it was pretty

2975
01:46:01,510 --> 01:45:59,600
dope by the way one thing i will i do

2976
01:46:03,590 --> 01:46:01,520
want to say

2977
01:46:06,790 --> 01:46:03,600
try be brief whatever uh

2978
01:46:09,189 --> 01:46:06,800
what i thought so after i posted my

2979
01:46:10,629 --> 01:46:09,199
thoughts on the future

2980
01:46:12,790 --> 01:46:10,639
in 2013

2981
01:46:14,950 --> 01:46:12,800
i believed that it very well may have

2982
01:46:16,629 --> 01:46:14,960
been a self-evident proof of remote

2983
01:46:18,790 --> 01:46:16,639
viewing right because how could you know

2984
01:46:21,270 --> 01:46:18,800
the future the very f just like i said

2985
01:46:23,910 --> 01:46:21,280
the very fact of my my identities in the

2986
01:46:27,109 --> 01:46:23,920
story the fact that the story became

2987
01:46:28,550 --> 01:46:27,119
popular when it did was based on the

2988
01:46:29,990 --> 01:46:28,560
fact that i thought i was remote viewing

2989
01:46:31,990 --> 01:46:30,000
the future of disclosure and i thought

2990
01:46:34,229 --> 01:46:32,000
if i was close enough i could get the

2991
01:46:36,310 --> 01:46:34,239
story to land i mentioned the balled up

2992
01:46:38,470 --> 01:46:36,320
paper crumble that i throw from the past

2993
01:46:40,709 --> 01:46:38,480
into the future right i thought i had

2994
01:46:41,510 --> 01:46:40,719
that that image in my brain right which

2995
01:46:43,430 --> 01:46:41,520
goes back to the charismatic

2996
01:46:45,910 --> 01:46:43,440
christianity stuff of like

2997
01:46:48,070 --> 01:46:45,920
visions and images whatever but i had

2998
01:46:50,070 --> 01:46:48,080
that image in my brain of throwing like

2999
01:46:52,070 --> 01:46:50,080
a note to myself in the future

3000
01:46:54,390 --> 01:46:52,080
and i thought if

3001
01:46:56,470 --> 01:46:54,400
if it's if it really is close enough the

3002
01:46:59,189 --> 01:46:56,480
very fact that the story

3003
01:47:01,750 --> 01:46:59,199
becomes popular will be proof that

3004
01:47:03,669 --> 01:47:01,760
it was more or less right right and and

3005
01:47:06,149 --> 01:47:03,679
by the way the fur i doubled down on the

3006
01:47:07,510 --> 01:47:06,159
17 7 18 right i like the way it looked

3007
01:47:09,270 --> 01:47:07,520
for one thing but i wanted there to be a

3008
01:47:10,950 --> 01:47:09,280
firm close to the date because i was

3009
01:47:13,350 --> 01:47:10,960
relatively sure nothing would happen but

3010
01:47:16,790 --> 01:47:13,360
i didn't know i was genuinely terrified

3011
01:47:20,070 --> 01:47:16,800
on the 18th right um but uh i wanted a

3012
01:47:21,750 --> 01:47:20,080
firm club me too dude yeah and so now

3013
01:47:23,189 --> 01:47:21,760
i'm hoping to be able to tell people

3014
01:47:24,790 --> 01:47:23,199
listen

3015
01:47:26,629 --> 01:47:24,800
please be careful what you read on the

3016
01:47:27,590 --> 01:47:26,639
internet you never know what's true or

3017
01:47:29,510 --> 01:47:27,600
false

3018
01:47:31,830 --> 01:47:29,520
a lot of stuff sounds bad [\h__\h] insane

3019
01:47:33,990 --> 01:47:31,840
and it's maybe true a lot of [\h__\h] sounds

3020
01:47:35,990 --> 01:47:34,000
batshit insane and it's not true right

3021
01:47:39,590 --> 01:47:36,000
there was a larp just today right uh

3022
01:47:42,550 --> 01:47:39,600
about the intelligent viroid uh and it

3023
01:47:43,830 --> 01:47:42,560
got me right but i regardless i think it

3024
01:47:45,830 --> 01:47:43,840
sparked some

3025
01:47:47,109 --> 01:47:45,840
very important thoughts in my brain

3026
01:47:48,550 --> 01:47:47,119
right about

3027
01:47:50,950 --> 01:47:48,560
it sparked our imagination and i think

3028
01:47:53,270 --> 01:47:50,960
that's what good good fiction does

3029
01:47:56,550 --> 01:47:53,280
um

3030
01:47:58,390 --> 01:47:56,560
uh so yeah i i anyways all of that stuff

3031
01:48:00,790 --> 01:47:58,400
to to say that yeah i thought the very

3032
01:48:02,070 --> 01:48:00,800
existence of the story itself was kind

3033
01:48:04,550 --> 01:48:02,080
of

3034
01:48:06,790 --> 01:48:04,560
the self-evident thing that

3035
01:48:08,390 --> 01:48:06,800
some kind of prediction of the future is

3036
01:48:10,709 --> 01:48:08,400
at play right

3037
01:48:12,470 --> 01:48:10,719
um it wasn't just coincidence but i

3038
01:48:13,669 --> 01:48:12,480
wasn't abducted so

3039
01:48:15,430 --> 01:48:13,679
uh be careful what you read on the

3040
01:48:17,350 --> 01:48:15,440
internet we know uh

3041
01:48:19,510 --> 01:48:17,360
that we know of who knows i have had

3042
01:48:21,109 --> 01:48:19,520
experiences since yeah anyways

3043
01:48:25,910 --> 01:48:21,119
brb you guys

3044
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:29,590
drinks

3045
01:48:31,910 --> 01:48:31,030
i thought he was back already i was like

3046
01:48:33,750 --> 01:48:31,920
that was

3047
01:48:35,669 --> 01:48:33,760
fast right yeah lightning lightning

3048
01:48:37,669 --> 01:48:35,679
mcqueen over there

3049
01:48:40,790 --> 01:48:37,679
yes dude yeah what are you drinking over

3050
01:48:42,550 --> 01:48:40,800
there man i'm drinking yingling um by

3051
01:48:44,390 --> 01:48:42,560
the way i see my brother talking in chat

3052
01:48:45,590 --> 01:48:44,400
and he's you know he's right he i did

3053
01:48:46,790 --> 01:48:45,600
write about things that happened in our

3054
01:48:47,590 --> 01:48:46,800
lives um

3055
01:48:48,470 --> 01:48:47,600
so

3056
01:48:49,590 --> 01:48:48,480
again

3057
01:48:50,470 --> 01:48:49,600
witnesses

3058
01:48:51,510 --> 01:48:50,480
believe them or don't believe them

3059
01:48:53,510 --> 01:48:51,520
they're people on the internet just like

3060
01:48:55,750 --> 01:48:53,520
everybody's how do i know you're real if

3061
01:48:56,020 --> 01:48:55,760
you're a hologram

3062
01:48:59,030 --> 01:48:56,030
cheers

3063
01:49:00,550 --> 01:48:59,040
[Laughter]

3064
01:49:03,030 --> 01:49:00,560
you're not real to me right now you are

3065
01:49:04,709 --> 01:49:03,040
pixels on the screen that's right i'm

3066
01:49:06,470 --> 01:49:04,719
talking to you and interacting with you

3067
01:49:08,870 --> 01:49:06,480
uh it's fun to think about we are

3068
01:49:10,550 --> 01:49:08,880
simulation right now

3069
01:49:12,550 --> 01:49:10,560
i was talking with somebody else today

3070
01:49:14,790 --> 01:49:12,560
about simulation theory and about they

3071
01:49:17,030 --> 01:49:14,800
came to me about the throw alien story

3072
01:49:18,149 --> 01:49:17,040
they actually met the dalai lama right

3073
01:49:20,149 --> 01:49:18,159
um but they were talking about

3074
01:49:22,310 --> 01:49:20,159
simulation theory and how their interest

3075
01:49:24,950 --> 01:49:22,320
in the topic really kind of

3076
01:49:26,229 --> 01:49:24,960
kind of impacted their mental health

3077
01:49:27,910 --> 01:49:26,239
and he said that

3078
01:49:30,229 --> 01:49:27,920
this was really humbling and so i'm

3079
01:49:32,470 --> 01:49:30,239
going to say it but it i i hope it it

3080
01:49:34,550 --> 01:49:32,480
gives more context right he he called me

3081
01:49:37,030 --> 01:49:34,560
his hero and he said thank you and he

3082
01:49:38,149 --> 01:49:37,040
asked me for a mental health um referral

3083
01:49:40,550 --> 01:49:38,159
and so

3084
01:49:41,589 --> 01:49:40,560
i think that that kind of thing is okay

3085
01:49:43,830 --> 01:49:41,599
right

3086
01:49:45,990 --> 01:49:43,840
it's okay to talk to people about

3087
01:49:48,070 --> 01:49:46,000
things we don't know about it's okay to

3088
01:49:50,950 --> 01:49:48,080
encounter things and be afraid right so

3089
01:49:53,510 --> 01:49:50,960
uh yeah you never know you never know

3090
01:49:55,990 --> 01:49:53,520
what's gonna help somebody you know

3091
01:49:58,310 --> 01:49:56,000
even just the simplest high or like

3092
01:49:59,430 --> 01:49:58,320
you're standing at the coke machine and

3093
01:50:01,430 --> 01:49:59,440
you're like

3094
01:50:03,030 --> 01:50:01,440
damn things broken again you know you

3095
01:50:05,350 --> 01:50:03,040
strike up conversation you just never

3096
01:50:08,470 --> 01:50:05,360
know like what's going on

3097
01:50:10,470 --> 01:50:08,480
i i met somebody who is has a very high

3098
01:50:12,149 --> 01:50:10,480
profile in actually in the video gaming

3099
01:50:14,149 --> 01:50:12,159
community um

3100
01:50:16,149 --> 01:50:14,159
through the story right you and and and

3101
01:50:19,430 --> 01:50:16,159
they tell me some things that are like

3102
01:50:21,669 --> 01:50:19,440
wow that's very fascinating um you never

3103
01:50:23,990 --> 01:50:21,679
know who you're talking to right and

3104
01:50:24,870 --> 01:50:24,000
that's kind of the the fun irony to me

3105
01:50:29,750 --> 01:50:24,880
of

3106
01:50:31,109 --> 01:50:29,760
can still not believe right i like the

3107
01:50:32,709 --> 01:50:31,119
also the idea of being able to go to the

3108
01:50:33,910 --> 01:50:32,719
grocery store and not be harassed

3109
01:50:35,669 --> 01:50:33,920
because you're some kind of celebrity

3110
01:50:38,470 --> 01:50:35,679
right i'm like the anonymous celebrity

3111
01:50:41,030 --> 01:50:38,480
which is hilarious to me but yeah uh

3112
01:50:42,870 --> 01:50:41,040
it's it's just the the the undercover

3113
01:50:46,550 --> 01:50:42,880
boss kind of thing is is something that

3114
01:50:48,310 --> 01:50:46,560
amuses me right so it's it's just

3115
01:50:50,229 --> 01:50:48,320
to me

3116
01:50:52,470 --> 01:50:50,239
the story is hilarious in so many ways

3117
01:50:55,030 --> 01:50:52,480
it's tragic in ways it's

3118
01:50:57,830 --> 01:50:55,040
a comedy in ways it's all of the things

3119
01:51:02,229 --> 01:50:57,840
of life that we encounter every day all

3120
01:51:03,350 --> 01:51:02,239
in one power packed eight year story

3121
01:51:05,589 --> 01:51:03,360
so

3122
01:51:08,390 --> 01:51:05,599
it's got laughs it's got cries

3123
01:51:10,709 --> 01:51:08,400
yeah i mean it's it's it's a it's a it's

3124
01:51:13,030 --> 01:51:10,719
a freaking crazy story man like it's

3125
01:51:17,030 --> 01:51:13,040
it's it's insane you know i mean it's

3126
01:51:19,430 --> 01:51:17,040
crazy it's crazy skeptical not skeptical

3127
01:51:21,270 --> 01:51:19,440
either way this is okay this story is is

3128
01:51:23,270 --> 01:51:21,280
is uh

3129
01:51:25,510 --> 01:51:23,280
it really got a lot of people amped up

3130
01:51:27,910 --> 01:51:25,520
didn't it it did it totally did and

3131
01:51:30,310 --> 01:51:27,920
honestly going through it scared the

3132
01:51:32,390 --> 01:51:30,320
ever living crap out of me it was like

3133
01:51:34,070 --> 01:51:32,400
intense uh you know they dug into my

3134
01:51:36,070 --> 01:51:34,080
life they figured out that how fast i

3135
01:51:37,189 --> 01:51:36,080
type right yeah

3136
01:51:38,310 --> 01:51:37,199
invasive

3137
01:51:40,310 --> 01:51:38,320
damage

3138
01:51:42,470 --> 01:51:40,320
i'm reloading my cbd here that's like

3139
01:51:43,910 --> 01:51:42,480
creepy

3140
01:51:46,149 --> 01:51:43,920
right and the fact that i got a family

3141
01:51:47,030 --> 01:51:46,159
now to watch out for people can be mad

3142
01:51:49,109 --> 01:51:47,040
at me

3143
01:51:49,990 --> 01:51:49,119
if they want to they can think all kinds

3144
01:51:51,270 --> 01:51:50,000
of things about me because i'm just

3145
01:51:53,270 --> 01:51:51,280
telling somebody telling my story these

3146
01:51:55,430 --> 01:51:53,280
these are my experiences i'm being as

3147
01:51:57,030 --> 01:51:55,440
open and honest as i can people ask for

3148
01:51:59,350 --> 01:51:57,040
throw alien to come and

3149
01:52:00,790 --> 01:51:59,360
say the truth uh that's what i'm doing

3150
01:52:03,270 --> 01:52:00,800
you're free to not believe it right and

3151
01:52:04,229 --> 01:52:03,280
that's that's that's all we can ever you

3152
01:52:05,830 --> 01:52:04,239
know

3153
01:52:08,149 --> 01:52:05,840
what can we believe

3154
01:52:09,910 --> 01:52:08,159
so anyways

3155
01:52:12,149 --> 01:52:09,920
it's a fun story i i love the memes by

3156
01:52:15,589 --> 01:52:12,159
the way and and i bought i bought

3157
01:52:17,270 --> 01:52:15,599
dorothy's artwork dude

3158
01:52:18,870 --> 01:52:17,280
yeah that's some cool artwork man for

3159
01:52:20,950 --> 01:52:18,880
sure i definitely there were so many

3160
01:52:24,470 --> 01:52:20,960
beautiful things uh people made

3161
01:52:27,350 --> 01:52:24,480
notebooks and like t-shirts they had

3162
01:52:28,790 --> 01:52:27,360
logos uh i think joey is not my name is

3163
01:52:30,310 --> 01:52:28,800
one of the the redditors that made some

3164
01:52:31,910 --> 01:52:30,320
of the logos they made the salt shakers

3165
01:52:35,109 --> 01:52:31,920
and the trumpets for upvote and down

3166
01:52:37,109 --> 01:52:35,119
vote it was awesome to see the community

3167
01:52:38,550 --> 01:52:37,119
collectively write more of the story

3168
01:52:41,350 --> 01:52:38,560
because i didn't i only wrote a little

3169
01:52:42,470 --> 01:52:41,360
bit they wrote a lot more right and i

3170
01:52:45,430 --> 01:52:42,480
think that that's kind of interesting

3171
01:52:46,950 --> 01:52:45,440
from a stream of consciousness aspect uh

3172
01:52:48,950 --> 01:52:46,960
maybe they were maybe we were

3173
01:52:50,790 --> 01:52:48,960
collectively writing this story

3174
01:52:52,870 --> 01:52:50,800
maybe i maybe there was some

3175
01:52:55,030 --> 01:52:52,880
consciousness phenomenon that drove me

3176
01:52:57,189 --> 01:52:55,040
to do it right

3177
01:52:58,790 --> 01:52:57,199
we're all partaking in this thing

3178
01:53:00,390 --> 01:52:58,800
called life right and we collectively

3179
01:53:02,629 --> 01:53:00,400
define our reality whether and i don't

3180
01:53:04,629 --> 01:53:02,639
think that in some mystical way we'd

3181
01:53:07,430 --> 01:53:04,639
govern ourselves through our democracy

3182
01:53:09,830 --> 01:53:07,440
right we me and you and ben agree

3183
01:53:11,510 --> 01:53:09,840
together to come on and do this show we

3184
01:53:14,310 --> 01:53:11,520
collectively

3185
01:53:17,189 --> 01:53:14,320
manifest our reality through every day

3186
01:53:19,990 --> 01:53:17,199
right and so yeah yeah i and that's what

3187
01:53:24,070 --> 01:53:20,000
made me frightening um

3188
01:53:26,550 --> 01:53:24,080
what made me frightened about uh

3189
01:53:28,470 --> 01:53:26,560
a.t is like what if they are manifesting

3190
01:53:29,270 --> 01:53:28,480
aliens that come abduct me right because

3191
01:53:31,589 --> 01:53:29,280
people thought i was going to be

3192
01:53:33,270 --> 01:53:31,599
abducted i don't know what to expect i

3193
01:53:34,950 --> 01:53:33,280
rolled the dice right i rolled the dice

3194
01:53:35,669 --> 01:53:34,960
in 2013

3195
01:53:37,189 --> 01:53:35,679
and

3196
01:53:39,109 --> 01:53:37,199
hot damn if i didn't come out with lucky

3197
01:53:41,589 --> 01:53:39,119
sevens right or whatever whatever's

3198
01:53:43,910 --> 01:53:41,599
lucky in dice throwing i don't know

3199
01:53:45,830 --> 01:53:43,920
um but yeah

3200
01:53:50,149 --> 01:53:45,840
so those are like a lot of collective

3201
01:53:52,870 --> 01:53:50,159
consciousness yes speaking to you

3202
01:53:53,990 --> 01:53:52,880
we are all right

3203
01:53:56,070 --> 01:53:54,000
and i don't mean that in the weird

3204
01:53:57,990 --> 01:53:56,080
mystical way but it's it's it's true at

3205
01:53:59,510 --> 01:53:58,000
a fundamental level right so it's

3206
01:54:01,589 --> 01:53:59,520
exciting right

3207
01:54:03,270 --> 01:54:01,599
yep yeah dude cheers

3208
01:54:04,229 --> 01:54:03,280
everything's energy

3209
01:54:06,709 --> 01:54:04,239
you know

3210
01:54:08,550 --> 01:54:06,719
everything everything is consciousness i

3211
01:54:11,189 --> 01:54:08,560
just i

3212
01:54:12,149 --> 01:54:11,199
that says tell logan black that i'm your

3213
01:54:14,470 --> 01:54:12,159
brother

3214
01:54:15,430 --> 01:54:14,480
uh and i think he wants the name

3215
01:54:17,510 --> 01:54:15,440
uh

3216
01:54:18,950 --> 01:54:17,520
my brother is i think he was under we

3217
01:54:20,950 --> 01:54:18,960
quoted him a couple times with diane and

3218
01:54:22,550 --> 01:54:20,960
angie and stuff um

3219
01:54:26,470 --> 01:54:22,560
mike baba

3220
01:54:27,990 --> 01:54:26,480
baba mike yeah look no logan no prophecy

3221
01:54:29,350 --> 01:54:28,000
came true it was a it was a false

3222
01:54:30,870 --> 01:54:29,360
prophecy right

3223
01:54:33,589 --> 01:54:30,880
because it was very very unlikely to

3224
01:54:35,430 --> 01:54:33,599
come to pass right so the

3225
01:54:37,430 --> 01:54:35,440
it's not a prophecy i think of it as a

3226
01:54:39,510 --> 01:54:37,440
remote viewing of the future right

3227
01:54:41,510 --> 01:54:39,520
the fact that the oh my brother says

3228
01:54:45,430 --> 01:54:41,520
mike papa is his name

3229
01:54:50,060 --> 01:54:47,589
oh he froze

3230
01:55:03,430 --> 01:54:50,070
oh no

3231
01:55:07,189 --> 01:55:03,440
[Music]

3232
01:55:09,510 --> 01:55:07,199
i have uh a note in my phone

3233
01:55:12,629 --> 01:55:09,520
i'm just buying time here okay no

3234
01:55:14,629 --> 01:55:12,639
worries dude but cool ass picture

3235
01:55:15,150 --> 01:55:14,639
dude

3236
01:55:16,629 --> 01:55:15,160
yeah

3237
01:55:18,709 --> 01:55:16,639
[Music]

3238
01:55:20,470 --> 01:55:18,719
dude hey d-y-n-b-d

3239
01:55:22,390 --> 01:55:20,480
whatever the [\h__\h] your name it dude like

3240
01:55:24,470 --> 01:55:22,400
i would love to like hear your side of

3241
01:55:26,550 --> 01:55:24,480
the story but you're such a [\h__\h] i don't

3242
01:55:28,470 --> 01:55:26,560
even want to spend my time on you and

3243
01:55:31,350 --> 01:55:28,480
that's what sucks is that like i want to

3244
01:55:33,270 --> 01:55:31,360
hear all sides of the story unlike you i

3245
01:55:35,109 --> 01:55:33,280
haven't spent [\h__\h] half my life

3246
01:55:37,350 --> 01:55:35,119
looking into this guy's story i

3247
01:55:39,350 --> 01:55:37,360
apologize i i would love to hear what

3248
01:55:42,629 --> 01:55:39,360
you have to say that's that's kind of

3249
01:55:45,430 --> 01:55:42,639
part of the whole deal uh and and and it

3250
01:55:46,790 --> 01:55:45,440
sucks that you're an [\h__\h] because now

3251
01:55:48,709 --> 01:55:46,800
i don't think anybody really wants to

3252
01:55:50,550 --> 01:55:48,719
listen to you that was it and that sucks

3253
01:55:52,310 --> 01:55:50,560
that sucks for you i extended the

3254
01:55:55,589 --> 01:55:52,320
invitation for him to to come on the

3255
01:55:57,030 --> 01:55:55,599
show but now i'm uh i think i've i'm

3256
01:55:59,350 --> 01:55:57,040
rescinding it

3257
01:56:00,629 --> 01:55:59,360
yeah i mean like it's it's totally fine

3258
01:56:03,750 --> 01:56:00,639
like it's just a [\h__\h]

3259
01:56:07,350 --> 01:56:03,760
just a foul foul person just like i i

3260
01:56:09,830 --> 01:56:07,360
get it it's fine it's fine just calm the

3261
01:56:11,669 --> 01:56:09,840
[\h__\h] down dude you're such a [\h__\h]

3262
01:56:15,990 --> 01:56:11,679
loser god

3263
01:56:19,270 --> 01:56:16,000
you're such a loser yeah uh dude so joe

3264
01:56:22,310 --> 01:56:19,280
you sent me this

3265
01:56:24,470 --> 01:56:22,320
oh he's back oh he's back there he is

3266
01:56:25,990 --> 01:56:24,480
back baby sorry yes my computer shut off

3267
01:56:32,709 --> 01:56:26,000
i think i i warned you guys did i warn

3268
01:56:35,990 --> 01:56:34,790
let me see hey brother he's like where'd

3269
01:56:36,950 --> 01:56:36,000
you go

3270
01:56:43,430 --> 01:56:36,960
you

3271
01:56:45,109 --> 01:56:43,440
second uh

3272
01:56:48,070 --> 01:56:45,119
or give us the thumbs up when you're

3273
01:56:50,229 --> 01:56:48,080
ready to come back in thorough uh

3274
01:56:52,070 --> 01:56:50,239
joe tell us about this

3275
01:56:54,390 --> 01:56:52,080
okay so

3276
01:56:59,510 --> 01:56:54,400
our buddy tattooed tammy right the guy

3277
01:57:03,589 --> 01:57:01,750
hey i tried to set you up this week i

3278
01:57:04,950 --> 01:57:03,599
know i'm just happy we're busy i'm just

3279
01:57:06,310 --> 01:57:04,960
i'm just giving you [\h__\h] so i'm gonna go

3280
01:57:07,830 --> 01:57:06,320
finish my mommy no

3281
01:57:10,470 --> 01:57:07,840
i can't

3282
01:57:13,589 --> 01:57:10,480
okay hold on hold on here we go so the

3283
01:57:16,950 --> 01:57:13,599
story behind this is uh his his brother

3284
01:57:19,030 --> 01:57:16,960
him his his brother right and his wife

3285
01:57:21,830 --> 01:57:19,040
were driving through

3286
01:57:23,510 --> 01:57:21,840
uh yellowstone uh national park and they

3287
01:57:26,470 --> 01:57:23,520
said it looked like a massive storm was

3288
01:57:27,510 --> 01:57:26,480
rolling in lots of lightning lots of

3289
01:57:28,390 --> 01:57:27,520
thunder

3290
01:57:29,510 --> 01:57:28,400
uh

3291
01:57:31,430 --> 01:57:29,520
and

3292
01:57:33,830 --> 01:57:31,440
there was no rain that happened they

3293
01:57:35,350 --> 01:57:33,840
were just like this is a very odd thing

3294
01:57:37,350 --> 01:57:35,360
so as they're driving through

3295
01:57:39,510 --> 01:57:37,360
yellowstone park you know she's taking

3296
01:57:41,589 --> 01:57:39,520
pictures because this is a cool looking

3297
01:57:42,790 --> 01:57:41,599
storm and he said that when they got

3298
01:57:44,870 --> 01:57:42,800
back to the house you know they were

3299
01:57:47,830 --> 01:57:44,880
looking through the pictures and this

3300
01:57:50,629 --> 01:57:47,840
picture showed up and they didn't see it

3301
01:57:52,950 --> 01:57:50,639
while they were driving it only showed

3302
01:57:55,189 --> 01:57:52,960
up in the in the photo

3303
01:57:57,350 --> 01:57:55,199
man it it just uh

3304
01:57:59,910 --> 01:57:57,360
it looks strange

3305
01:58:01,589 --> 01:57:59,920
it i can't tell i want to send it to a

3306
01:58:03,270 --> 01:58:01,599
couple people because i'm wondering if

3307
01:58:04,830 --> 01:58:03,280
there's any like

3308
01:58:07,750 --> 01:58:04,840
those ski lifts

3309
01:58:09,589 --> 01:58:07,760
or it looks too big to be like a guard

3310
01:58:11,510 --> 01:58:09,599
station maybe

3311
01:58:13,270 --> 01:58:11,520
it could be one of those fire stations

3312
01:58:14,790 --> 01:58:13,280
that's out there you know a lot of times

3313
01:58:17,030 --> 01:58:14,800
the storms roll in

3314
01:58:18,830 --> 01:58:17,040
and clouds you don't see buildings and

3315
01:58:20,790 --> 01:58:18,840
stuff there's some fog you don't see

3316
01:58:23,830 --> 01:58:20,800
buildings uh

3317
01:58:26,390 --> 01:58:23,840
and and and when the lightning strikes

3318
01:58:28,149 --> 01:58:26,400
you see silhouettes of stuff and so i'm

3319
01:58:30,550 --> 01:58:28,159
kind of wondering maybe is this a

3320
01:58:32,790 --> 01:58:30,560
silhouette of of something off in the

3321
01:58:35,510 --> 01:58:32,800
distance that we just didn't realize was

3322
01:58:37,830 --> 01:58:35,520
there as we're you know doing you know

3323
01:58:39,910 --> 01:58:37,840
photos but

3324
01:58:42,070 --> 01:58:39,920
then again

3325
01:58:43,990 --> 01:58:42,080
uh you know i ben i need you to take a

3326
01:58:47,830 --> 01:58:44,000
look at this and tell me about the

3327
01:58:49,430 --> 01:58:47,840
artifacts if you find any

3328
01:58:52,950 --> 01:58:49,440
i'm just gonna open it up in photoshop

3329
01:58:54,470 --> 01:58:52,960
real quick just let me one sector cause

3330
01:58:58,149 --> 01:58:54,480
i could i could look at the uh the

3331
01:58:59,910 --> 01:58:58,159
different uh values

3332
01:59:03,910 --> 01:58:59,920
um

3333
01:59:07,669 --> 01:59:06,070
i'm gonna need some some airtime filler

3334
01:59:10,430 --> 01:59:07,679
you're gonna need some airtime filler

3335
01:59:12,310 --> 01:59:10,440
hey well then you know go to

3336
01:59:14,830 --> 01:59:12,320
ufogaragepodcast.com go check out all

3337
01:59:17,830 --> 01:59:14,840
the cool stuff we got

3338
01:59:20,470 --> 01:59:17,840
uh you know we got every episode on

3339
01:59:23,189 --> 01:59:20,480
there we got t-shirts we got cups we got

3340
01:59:24,550 --> 01:59:23,199
koozies we got dave scott panties

3341
01:59:26,310 --> 01:59:24,560
it's [\h__\h] great right we're having a

3342
01:59:27,669 --> 01:59:26,320
good time over here

3343
01:59:29,750 --> 01:59:27,679
and right now dude if you purchase

3344
01:59:32,390 --> 01:59:29,760
anything from us um right now it's going

3345
01:59:34,870 --> 01:59:32,400
to anomaly archives we take 20 of total

3346
01:59:36,550 --> 01:59:34,880
purchases super chats and we put it back

3347
01:59:38,709 --> 01:59:36,560
into the community because like i said

3348
01:59:40,310 --> 01:59:38,719
before we're not scientists and [\h__\h] we

3349
01:59:41,750 --> 01:59:40,320
can't really do anything important we

3350
01:59:43,910 --> 01:59:41,760
just run this goofy show and like to

3351
01:59:45,030 --> 01:59:43,920
have a good time with everybody but you

3352
01:59:46,550 --> 01:59:45,040
know

3353
01:59:48,550 --> 01:59:46,560
when you guys purchase stuff from us we

3354
01:59:51,270 --> 01:59:48,560
like to put that back in the community

3355
01:59:55,109 --> 01:59:51,280
help out anomaly archives is up right

3356
01:59:57,430 --> 01:59:55,119
now they have got a a amazing archive

3357
02:00:00,149 --> 01:59:57,440
that was unfortunately shut down during

3358
02:00:02,149 --> 02:00:00,159
covid the rent prices out here in austin

3359
02:00:04,070 --> 02:00:02,159
like completely skyrocketed they're

3360
02:00:07,030 --> 02:00:04,080
looking for a new home these guys have

3361
02:00:09,350 --> 02:00:07,040
books from like the 1600s in there uh

3362
02:00:11,990 --> 02:00:09,360
it's absolutely amazing they've got

3363
02:00:15,030 --> 02:00:12,000
everything about any type of phenomena

3364
02:00:17,109 --> 02:00:15,040
whether it be witchcraft or ufos or

3365
02:00:19,669 --> 02:00:17,119
consciousness uh you know these guys

3366
02:00:21,189 --> 02:00:19,679
have won awards for you know

3367
02:00:22,790 --> 02:00:21,199
uh the uh what was it the number

3368
02:00:25,430 --> 02:00:22,800
generator thing that they did where they

3369
02:00:27,910 --> 02:00:25,440
were actually able to affect it um it's

3370
02:00:31,390 --> 02:00:27,920
really really awesome uh

3371
02:00:33,990 --> 02:00:31,400
miles lewis is a great dude

3372
02:00:35,750 --> 02:00:34,000
smiles uh go back and check out our

3373
02:00:38,470 --> 02:00:35,760
episode we did with him a couple weeks

3374
02:00:40,870 --> 02:00:38,480
ago um he's just a great guy man and we

3375
02:00:43,189 --> 02:00:40,880
really want to help these guys out so

3376
02:00:45,109 --> 02:00:43,199
you can help as well

3377
02:00:46,790 --> 02:00:45,119
by buying a t-shirt you can also donate

3378
02:00:49,189 --> 02:00:46,800
directly to them it doesn't have to go

3379
02:00:50,550 --> 02:00:49,199
through us and uh that's totally cool

3380
02:00:51,830 --> 02:00:50,560
too we just really want to help this

3381
02:00:54,470 --> 02:00:51,840
dude out so

3382
02:00:56,470 --> 02:00:54,480
hell yeah oh yeah

3383
02:00:59,430 --> 02:00:56,480
perfect perfect perfect that was my

3384
02:01:01,030 --> 02:00:59,440
spiel hey dude

3385
02:01:03,669 --> 02:01:01,040
thanks dude

3386
02:01:04,790 --> 02:01:03,679
i liked it i'd buy stuff from you

3387
02:01:08,790 --> 02:01:04,800
hell yeah

3388
02:01:12,950 --> 02:01:10,709
i have an internet browser you're

3389
02:01:14,550 --> 02:01:12,960
actually an official doctor scientist by

3390
02:01:16,629 --> 02:01:14,560
the way which makes this whole thing

3391
02:01:18,310 --> 02:01:16,639
even more hilarious

3392
02:01:20,830 --> 02:01:18,320
because when you come on the show you're

3393
02:01:23,109 --> 02:01:20,840
an official doctor scientist

3394
02:01:24,709 --> 02:01:23,119
dude brother and cousin are texting me

3395
02:01:27,109 --> 02:01:24,719
they're pretty upset about the chat

3396
02:01:28,790 --> 02:01:27,119
that's hilarious it's okay it's okay i

3397
02:01:31,189 --> 02:01:28,800
knew this would probably

3398
02:01:33,750 --> 02:01:31,199
it's okay everybody hey we only have one

3399
02:01:36,470 --> 02:01:33,760
[\h__\h] that's okay yeah and people are

3400
02:01:37,830 --> 02:01:36,480
entitled to their opinions yeah i i it's

3401
02:01:39,830 --> 02:01:37,840
better than i thought it would be to be

3402
02:01:41,910 --> 02:01:39,840
honest so i was i mean i experienced it

3403
02:01:44,550 --> 02:01:41,920
firsthand right uh people really made

3404
02:01:47,189 --> 02:01:44,560
some nasty comments

3405
02:01:49,189 --> 02:01:47,199
i was expecting uh you know things like

3406
02:01:51,350 --> 02:01:49,199
hey you know

3407
02:01:53,910 --> 02:01:51,360
scientifically you know prove it blah

3408
02:01:55,589 --> 02:01:53,920
blah but this guy

3409
02:01:57,109 --> 02:01:55,599
i you know that's the thing though

3410
02:01:59,589 --> 02:01:57,119
everything relies on your trust in

3411
02:02:01,189 --> 02:01:59,599
somebody at some point right uh if you

3412
02:02:03,109 --> 02:02:01,199
believe scientific evidence well that

3413
02:02:05,750 --> 02:02:03,119
you're putting your trust in something

3414
02:02:07,109 --> 02:02:05,760
the scientist has said right they are

3415
02:02:08,709 --> 02:02:07,119
vouching for the evidence that they

3416
02:02:11,910 --> 02:02:08,719
conducted so you're still putting your

3417
02:02:14,070 --> 02:02:11,920
trust in some what somebody says right

3418
02:02:15,109 --> 02:02:14,080
yes and he said i was a virgin and you

3419
02:02:17,510 --> 02:02:15,119
know what

3420
02:02:19,109 --> 02:02:17,520
just because i'm a virgin

3421
02:02:20,470 --> 02:02:19,119
yeah it's okay

3422
02:02:22,629 --> 02:02:20,480
do you remember those 90s commercials

3423
02:02:23,750 --> 02:02:22,639
about like it's okay to be v or whatever

3424
02:02:27,350 --> 02:02:23,760
look

3425
02:02:29,910 --> 02:02:27,360
my wife had our child and we have i'm

3426
02:02:30,950 --> 02:02:29,920
still a virgin

3427
02:02:34,149 --> 02:02:30,960
that's right

3428
02:02:36,550 --> 02:02:34,159
okay you're a holy man right never it's

3429
02:02:38,149 --> 02:02:36,560
possible i've never had sex and she is

3430
02:02:39,030 --> 02:02:38,159
the chosen one i can't even say the word

3431
02:02:41,430 --> 02:02:39,040
it's hot

3432
02:02:43,270 --> 02:02:41,440
it's not feels dirty

3433
02:02:45,750 --> 02:02:43,280
all right you know yeah

3434
02:02:46,390 --> 02:02:45,760
we do receive milk in a bottle twice a

3435
02:02:48,709 --> 02:02:46,400
day

3436
02:02:50,790 --> 02:02:48,719
that's awesome do you really

3437
02:02:53,589 --> 02:02:50,800
no i just

3438
02:02:58,629 --> 02:02:53,599
see i you got me you got me i believed

3439
02:03:03,350 --> 02:03:00,550
you know that like like myth about the

3440
02:03:05,750 --> 02:03:03,360
milkman you know

3441
02:03:07,669 --> 02:03:05,760
[\h__\h] the wife [\h__\h] that's not a myth

3442
02:03:10,229 --> 02:03:07,679
dude it's not a myth

3443
02:03:12,790 --> 02:03:10,239
yeah that's hilarious but my daddy wait

3444
02:03:15,030 --> 02:03:12,800
i look like my mom's doctor

3445
02:03:16,950 --> 02:03:15,040
whatever he also used to always say

3446
02:03:19,669 --> 02:03:16,960
don't make me beat you like a redheaded

3447
02:03:23,030 --> 02:03:19,679
stepchild because i'm a redhead right

3448
02:03:25,990 --> 02:03:24,629
ben's been wondering why his kid was

3449
02:03:29,510 --> 02:03:26,000
asian this whole time and i think he

3450
02:03:31,030 --> 02:03:29,520
just figured it out i thought that i had

3451
02:03:38,550 --> 02:03:31,040
no

3452
02:03:41,350 --> 02:03:39,990
what evan's what evidence do we have

3453
02:03:42,709 --> 02:03:41,360
that you're the father i want to see

3454
02:03:43,990 --> 02:03:42,719
genetic tests

3455
02:03:45,990 --> 02:03:44,000
there's none

3456
02:03:48,950 --> 02:03:46,000
there's nothing i've never had sex i

3457
02:03:50,470 --> 02:03:48,960
need proof i've never had a house how

3458
02:03:54,870 --> 02:03:50,480
are you a father

3459
02:03:57,990 --> 02:03:54,880
oh oh six six six usd oh lord

3460
02:04:01,430 --> 02:03:58,000
that's that's very true mr crowley does

3461
02:04:02,470 --> 02:04:01,440
have the only ufo garage dick pillow um

3462
02:04:05,270 --> 02:04:02,480
in existence

3463
02:04:07,109 --> 02:04:05,280
so yeah it's true

3464
02:04:08,629 --> 02:04:07,119
so tell me about this this photo bin

3465
02:04:11,510 --> 02:04:08,639
what did you did you find anything in

3466
02:04:13,430 --> 02:04:11,520
there i literally just started okay so

3467
02:04:15,669 --> 02:04:13,440
we're looking at we're looking at levels

3468
02:04:17,430 --> 02:04:15,679
when i when i look at okay

3469
02:04:19,030 --> 02:04:17,440
enhance just just

3470
02:04:22,310 --> 02:04:19,040
enhance

3471
02:04:25,430 --> 02:04:22,320
[Music]

3472
02:04:28,470 --> 02:04:25,440
i'm i'm not a professional but i do edit

3473
02:04:30,470 --> 02:04:28,480
photos and do product photography for a

3474
02:04:31,589 --> 02:04:30,480
living so i know a little bit about

3475
02:04:33,589 --> 02:04:31,599
photoshop

3476
02:04:36,870 --> 02:04:33,599
when i look at um

3477
02:04:38,470 --> 02:04:36,880
uh photoshop jobs and try to like debunk

3478
02:04:41,109 --> 02:04:38,480
them or try to make

3479
02:04:44,950 --> 02:04:41,119
my photos more realistic i look at the

3480
02:04:46,390 --> 02:04:44,960
the scatter uh the pixel scatter so

3481
02:04:49,109 --> 02:04:46,400
when you zoom in you can see the

3482
02:04:51,669 --> 02:04:49,119
gradient with the depth so we can see

3483
02:04:52,390 --> 02:04:51,679
that there's trees that are closer to

3484
02:04:58,950 --> 02:04:52,400
the

3485
02:05:00,950 --> 02:04:58,960
joseph we have practices

3486
02:05:03,910 --> 02:05:00,960
uh they're a little bit more defined and

3487
02:05:06,790 --> 02:05:03,920
as you go further with the with the

3488
02:05:09,270 --> 02:05:06,800
depth you see that the color is the same

3489
02:05:11,589 --> 02:05:09,280
yet there is a larger

3490
02:05:13,589 --> 02:05:11,599
pixel scatter

3491
02:05:16,149 --> 02:05:13,599
as we get closer to the object in

3492
02:05:21,270 --> 02:05:16,159
question it seems as though

3493
02:05:22,470 --> 02:05:21,280
it is further than this line of trees

3494
02:05:24,149 --> 02:05:22,480
yet

3495
02:05:26,870 --> 02:05:24,159
it doesn't have

3496
02:05:28,950 --> 02:05:26,880
as large of a scatter

3497
02:05:30,390 --> 02:05:28,960
which would lead if it was just that i

3498
02:05:33,830 --> 02:05:30,400
would be like all right

3499
02:05:37,750 --> 02:05:33,840
let's look closer but enhance

3500
02:05:40,950 --> 02:05:37,760
but now i'm seeing this shadow this like

3501
02:05:44,069 --> 02:05:40,960
phantom shadow wow which okay have you

3502
02:05:46,790 --> 02:05:44,079
guys ever seen like the the conspiracy

3503
02:05:48,950 --> 02:05:46,800
theory videos of contrails in the sky

3504
02:05:51,189 --> 02:05:48,960
they're like why is that contrail yeah

3505
02:05:53,830 --> 02:05:51,199
yeah making a shadow

3506
02:05:55,510 --> 02:05:53,840
it's because it's an it's an atmospheric

3507
02:05:57,669 --> 02:05:55,520
phenomenon

3508
02:05:59,589 --> 02:05:57,679
if you look at the

3509
02:06:01,990 --> 02:05:59,599
or even like the floating city in in

3510
02:06:03,510 --> 02:06:02,000
china where it's like reflecting off of

3511
02:06:05,990 --> 02:06:03,520
all the smog and that's why it looks

3512
02:06:07,990 --> 02:06:06,000
like it's up in the clouds

3513
02:06:10,149 --> 02:06:08,000
okay so dude honestly i don't know

3514
02:06:11,350 --> 02:06:10,159
exactly like

3515
02:06:15,510 --> 02:06:11,360
i don't know

3516
02:06:17,270 --> 02:06:15,520
it's it's yes absolutely so like there's

3517
02:06:19,030 --> 02:06:17,280
when you look

3518
02:06:20,229 --> 02:06:19,040
when you think about light right like it

3519
02:06:22,709 --> 02:06:20,239
reflects

3520
02:06:24,790 --> 02:06:22,719
and it bends there's all kinds of stuff

3521
02:06:26,550 --> 02:06:24,800
it does with the clouds that we're

3522
02:06:29,030 --> 02:06:26,560
seeing here

3523
02:06:30,550 --> 02:06:29,040
uh it's very cloudy right it's very

3524
02:06:32,310 --> 02:06:30,560
bright at this

3525
02:06:34,069 --> 02:06:32,320
in this center spot

3526
02:06:35,350 --> 02:06:34,079
so because the

3527
02:06:36,629 --> 02:06:35,360
uh so

3528
02:06:39,270 --> 02:06:36,639
from my my

3529
02:06:42,470 --> 02:06:39,280
surmises formation surmaz buckles

3530
02:06:47,910 --> 02:06:45,589
what i'm i'm thinking is that it it's uh

3531
02:06:51,350 --> 02:06:47,920
what the camera did is focus in on this

3532
02:06:55,270 --> 02:06:51,360
this very bright area right here

3533
02:06:57,350 --> 02:06:55,280
and it uh it saw this object

3534
02:07:00,470 --> 02:06:57,360
which i actually think is

3535
02:07:03,189 --> 02:07:00,480
in the photo dude is that an alien ding

3536
02:07:04,950 --> 02:07:03,199
dong on the on an alien spaceship

3537
02:07:06,069 --> 02:07:04,960
yeah it looks like

3538
02:07:08,229 --> 02:07:06,079
are you talking about this little bump

3539
02:07:10,680 --> 02:07:08,239
yeah yeah in the bulge he's getting

3540
02:07:14,629 --> 02:07:10,690
sobbed he's got a chub dude

3541
02:07:18,790 --> 02:07:16,790
that's crazy if we were to if we were to

3542
02:07:21,830 --> 02:07:18,800
enhance

3543
02:07:24,709 --> 02:07:21,840
uh oh that is my brush was way too large

3544
02:07:28,870 --> 02:07:24,719
i'm sorry i'm so sorry guys

3545
02:07:28,880 --> 02:07:31,189
that

3546
02:07:36,550 --> 02:07:34,149
i like it you put a a a bird beak on it

3547
02:07:38,310 --> 02:07:36,560
oh that's perfect

3548
02:07:40,550 --> 02:07:38,320
that's wonderful those are the worst

3549
02:07:42,149 --> 02:07:40,560
balls i've ever seen handing testicles

3550
02:07:44,790 --> 02:07:42,159
so the alien is trying to follow tucker

3551
02:07:46,709 --> 02:07:44,800
carlson's advice and his testicles

3552
02:07:48,620 --> 02:07:46,719
yeah we solved it the mystery itself

3553
02:07:50,390 --> 02:07:48,630
they are here for our sunshine

3554
02:07:52,870 --> 02:07:50,400
[Laughter]

3555
02:07:55,510 --> 02:07:52,880
so dude i'm i'm okay so i'm wondering a

3556
02:07:58,310 --> 02:07:55,520
little bit too like if that's like foggy

3557
02:08:00,550 --> 02:07:58,320
back there uh and the light is coming

3558
02:08:03,589 --> 02:08:00,560
down in the middle if this object is

3559
02:08:05,270 --> 02:08:03,599
there could it be casting a shadow like

3560
02:08:06,550 --> 02:08:05,280
in the the fog

3561
02:08:08,550 --> 02:08:06,560
uh

3562
02:08:10,149 --> 02:08:08,560
from it from a distance you know like

3563
02:08:11,669 --> 02:08:10,159
i'm out of a movie it feels like

3564
02:08:14,709 --> 02:08:11,679
something it looks like something out of

3565
02:08:17,669 --> 02:08:14,719
a movie right i know yeah it's it's very

3566
02:08:19,830 --> 02:08:17,679
strange man it's it's it's very strange

3567
02:08:21,430 --> 02:08:19,840
i you know i looked at it for a while

3568
02:08:23,189 --> 02:08:21,440
but yeah

3569
02:08:25,750 --> 02:08:23,199
i mean it seems to be a physical object

3570
02:08:26,629 --> 02:08:25,760
affecting the area around it right but

3571
02:08:27,589 --> 02:08:26,639
it yeah

3572
02:08:29,350 --> 02:08:27,599
yeah

3573
02:08:30,870 --> 02:08:29,360
but that's that's every horror movie

3574
02:08:33,270 --> 02:08:30,880
ever right the lightning flash it's so

3575
02:08:34,950 --> 02:08:33,280
stereotypical but like

3576
02:08:39,270 --> 02:08:34,960
i mean this is something you said your

3577
02:08:41,189 --> 02:08:39,280
sister took uh no no no so uh uh the uh

3578
02:08:43,589 --> 02:08:41,199
my buddy timmy um he's the guy who did

3579
02:08:45,030 --> 02:08:43,599
our tattoos so that's basically his his

3580
02:08:47,189 --> 02:08:45,040
brother's wife

3581
02:08:48,310 --> 02:08:47,199
took these photos and that was the thing

3582
02:08:50,390 --> 02:08:48,320
is they were you know you know they're

3583
02:08:53,189 --> 02:08:50,400
they're driving through the the national

3584
02:08:55,270 --> 02:08:53,199
park and they're taking photos and it

3585
02:08:56,550 --> 02:08:55,280
they didn't see this thing like they

3586
02:08:58,390 --> 02:08:56,560
didn't see it

3587
02:08:59,750 --> 02:08:58,400
right interesting yeah interesting and

3588
02:09:02,310 --> 02:08:59,760
he was like yeah we're going down this

3589
02:09:04,550 --> 02:09:02,320
long road and it's just kind of

3590
02:09:06,310 --> 02:09:04,560
this if if we're driving straight and

3591
02:09:08,310 --> 02:09:06,320
i'm taking pictures like we're just

3592
02:09:10,390 --> 02:09:08,320
looking in this direction for a whole

3593
02:09:12,550 --> 02:09:10,400
minute and the entire time it was

3594
02:09:14,629 --> 02:09:12,560
lightning and we didn't see this object

3595
02:09:18,470 --> 02:09:14,639
the entire time and yet it showed up in

3596
02:09:19,830 --> 02:09:18,480
a photo and it's not in every photo i i

3597
02:09:21,669 --> 02:09:19,840
really think so one of the things that i

3598
02:09:22,470 --> 02:09:21,679
think you're [\h__\h] this up ben

3599
02:09:24,310 --> 02:09:22,480
sorry

3600
02:09:25,750 --> 02:09:24,320
that's right

3601
02:09:29,430 --> 02:09:25,760
we needed some ass whoopings when you

3602
02:09:33,910 --> 02:09:32,840
get a switch off the tree

3603
02:09:35,589 --> 02:09:33,920
[Music]

3604
02:09:38,470 --> 02:09:35,599
but it is interesting right if we think

3605
02:09:41,430 --> 02:09:38,480
about uh you know these allegedly right

3606
02:09:43,990 --> 02:09:41,440
aliens can remotely

3607
02:09:47,109 --> 02:09:44,000
turn off the systems of fighter jets

3608
02:09:49,109 --> 02:09:47,119
could they remotely inf infect for lack

3609
02:09:51,830 --> 02:09:49,119
of a better word the camera taking this

3610
02:09:53,589 --> 02:09:51,840
thing at that moment right could they

3611
02:09:55,030 --> 02:09:53,599
imprint onto the

3612
02:09:57,830 --> 02:09:55,040
you know old-school film negatives if it

3613
02:09:59,270 --> 02:09:57,840
was that or in the digital bits right

3614
02:10:00,629 --> 02:09:59,280
are they advanced enough that they could

3615
02:10:02,310 --> 02:10:00,639
imprint this

3616
02:10:04,069 --> 02:10:02,320
onto this thing similar to when people

3617
02:10:05,430 --> 02:10:04,079
say they see see something and film it

3618
02:10:06,870 --> 02:10:05,440
and it's not there

3619
02:10:08,950 --> 02:10:06,880
right it's it's it seems like there's

3620
02:10:10,709 --> 02:10:08,960
some kind of dig remote manipulation of

3621
02:10:13,510 --> 02:10:10,719
our technology but that sure does look

3622
02:10:15,030 --> 02:10:13,520
like a physical evidence right

3623
02:10:16,629 --> 02:10:15,040
man

3624
02:10:18,790 --> 02:10:16,639
now the question is

3625
02:10:21,990 --> 02:10:18,800
now i'm going to have to go online and

3626
02:10:24,629 --> 02:10:22,000
and google fire towers and all kinds of

3627
02:10:26,870 --> 02:10:24,639
[\h__\h] right i just i just got this this

3628
02:10:28,310 --> 02:10:26,880
photo last night and you know i spent a

3629
02:10:30,629 --> 02:10:28,320
little time looking at but there's going

3630
02:10:32,629 --> 02:10:30,639
to be some googling involved because i i

3631
02:10:34,790 --> 02:10:32,639
really like i really want to figure this

3632
02:10:37,109 --> 02:10:34,800
out it's cool that it's like a buddy of

3633
02:10:39,189 --> 02:10:37,119
mine it was like hey

3634
02:10:41,270 --> 02:10:39,199
you're into ufos check this [\h__\h] out

3635
02:10:42,390 --> 02:10:41,280
this is kind of weird isn't it yeah it's

3636
02:10:44,709 --> 02:10:42,400
a little strange

3637
02:10:46,470 --> 02:10:44,719
it's weird i think reality is stranger

3638
02:10:49,510 --> 02:10:46,480
than fiction um

3639
02:10:51,430 --> 02:10:49,520
yeah it's it's weird we out that's what

3640
02:10:53,109 --> 02:10:51,440
you guys are about all things weird all

3641
02:10:55,350 --> 02:10:53,119
things weird man

3642
02:10:57,750 --> 02:10:55,360
so dude you said something about fire

3643
02:10:58,950 --> 02:10:57,760
houses uh-huh do you remember that one

3644
02:11:02,629 --> 02:10:58,960
in temple

3645
02:11:03,510 --> 02:11:02,639
that

3646
02:11:05,189 --> 02:11:03,520
uh

3647
02:11:07,030 --> 02:11:05,199
that looked

3648
02:11:08,950 --> 02:11:07,040
eerily similar to this it was a very

3649
02:11:11,830 --> 02:11:08,960
strange shape only thing

3650
02:11:14,069 --> 02:11:11,840
is that there was no bulge here

3651
02:11:17,109 --> 02:11:14,079
but it did have this i remember this so

3652
02:11:19,350 --> 02:11:17,119
specifically it was like a

3653
02:11:22,629 --> 02:11:19,360
it was a very straight uh

3654
02:11:26,069 --> 02:11:22,639
staircase it wasn't it wasn't as like

3655
02:11:28,390 --> 02:11:26,079
oblong as this but and was it as tall as

3656
02:11:31,270 --> 02:11:28,400
those trees i mean those are massive

3657
02:11:33,350 --> 02:11:31,280
dude those are massive trees well it's

3658
02:11:35,430 --> 02:11:33,360
hard to say because i think these in the

3659
02:11:37,510 --> 02:11:35,440
foreground

3660
02:11:40,550 --> 02:11:37,520
are probably like

3661
02:11:44,149 --> 02:11:40,560
50 foot these are i mean [\h__\h] maybe they

3662
02:11:48,629 --> 02:11:46,470
dude nick west uh

3663
02:11:50,470 --> 02:11:48,639
i would love to have him on the show

3664
02:11:51,910 --> 02:11:50,480
well i mean on this photo like tweet him

3665
02:11:53,750 --> 02:11:51,920
or something be like hey mick west what

3666
02:11:55,589 --> 02:11:53,760
what you got on me buddy how do you what

3667
02:11:56,390 --> 02:11:55,599
do you think let's tweet him and just

3668
02:11:57,189 --> 02:11:56,400
wait

3669
02:12:04,950 --> 02:11:57,199
and

3670
02:12:06,629 --> 02:12:04,960
[Laughter]

3671
02:12:09,030 --> 02:12:06,639
i'd like to give credit to my buddy

3672
02:12:10,870 --> 02:12:09,040
timmy's brother's wife

3673
02:12:11,830 --> 02:12:10,880
hashtag yeah

3674
02:12:15,830 --> 02:12:11,840
my buddy

3675
02:12:18,950 --> 02:12:17,189
that's perfect this is it's so

3676
02:12:20,149 --> 02:12:18,960
interesting i think man

3677
02:12:21,830 --> 02:12:20,159
i think that there's more to the

3678
02:12:23,430 --> 02:12:21,840
phenomenon and i think it's weirder than

3679
02:12:25,910 --> 02:12:23,440
we can imagine

3680
02:12:30,229 --> 02:12:28,229
what insanity do we live in what we what

3681
02:12:31,430 --> 02:12:30,239
reality is this right

3682
02:12:33,109 --> 02:12:31,440
craziness

3683
02:12:35,270 --> 02:12:33,119
yeah

3684
02:12:37,030 --> 02:12:35,280
so ben

3685
02:12:39,589 --> 02:12:37,040
you still haven't told me what you think

3686
02:12:41,270 --> 02:12:39,599
or you did and you just use crazy words

3687
02:12:43,830 --> 02:12:41,280
that i don't understand does it look

3688
02:12:46,229 --> 02:12:43,840
funny or does it does it look kind of

3689
02:12:48,069 --> 02:12:46,239
kind of legit it looks legit bro

3690
02:12:51,510 --> 02:12:48,079
yeah it looks legit here's the thing

3691
02:12:54,629 --> 02:12:51,520
that does trip me up is this shadow

3692
02:12:56,629 --> 02:12:54,639
the fact that okay i'll try to explain

3693
02:12:59,030 --> 02:12:56,639
here uh not that i know what the [\h__\h]

3694
02:13:01,750 --> 02:12:59,040
i'm talking about but you see this this

3695
02:13:06,229 --> 02:13:01,760
this cloud here uh-huh so that to me is

3696
02:13:07,830 --> 02:13:06,239
a point of of reference for your uh uh

3697
02:13:11,910 --> 02:13:07,840
your focal length

3698
02:13:13,990 --> 02:13:11,920
when you look at photos like this of

3699
02:13:15,270 --> 02:13:14,000
shadows of contrails it's very

3700
02:13:17,910 --> 02:13:15,280
consistent

3701
02:13:20,470 --> 02:13:17,920
like these stratus clouds are relatively

3702
02:13:23,510 --> 02:13:20,480
the same altitude so they would give off

3703
02:13:26,229 --> 02:13:23,520
the same altitude of shadow actually in

3704
02:13:27,910 --> 02:13:26,239
this case not so much because this

3705
02:13:29,990 --> 02:13:27,920
thinner layer can you all see what i'm

3706
02:13:32,709 --> 02:13:30,000
talking about yeah so this thinner layer

3707
02:13:34,470 --> 02:13:32,719
here is is at a specific

3708
02:13:37,510 --> 02:13:34,480
uh

3709
02:13:39,830 --> 02:13:37,520
length from the actual contrail this

3710
02:13:41,189 --> 02:13:39,840
thicker layer which you would think to

3711
02:13:42,629 --> 02:13:41,199
be lower

3712
02:13:44,310 --> 02:13:42,639
is i mean

3713
02:13:46,550 --> 02:13:44,320
at this angle does seem to be a little

3714
02:13:48,790 --> 02:13:46,560
lower it's not a straight line

3715
02:13:51,750 --> 02:13:48,800
this however is a straight line so if

3716
02:13:53,830 --> 02:13:51,760
you're looking at the density of this

3717
02:13:56,229 --> 02:13:53,840
particular cloud

3718
02:13:58,470 --> 02:13:56,239
right here this line this shadow keeps

3719
02:14:00,229 --> 02:13:58,480
going so that would mean

3720
02:14:01,510 --> 02:14:00,239
that it's fake

3721
02:14:03,430 --> 02:14:01,520
interesting

3722
02:14:05,510 --> 02:14:03,440
that it that it didn't change so if this

3723
02:14:06,550 --> 02:14:05,520
was interpretive right

3724
02:14:07,910 --> 02:14:06,560
sure

3725
02:14:09,589 --> 02:14:07,920
right we're interpreting evidence that's

3726
02:14:11,990 --> 02:14:09,599
what we're doing this is evidence and we

3727
02:14:13,589 --> 02:14:12,000
are interpreting it right we are reading

3728
02:14:15,669 --> 02:14:13,599
the signs that we have in front of us to

3729
02:14:16,870 --> 02:14:15,679
the best of our ability right yeah this

3730
02:14:18,310 --> 02:14:16,880
is this is a

3731
02:14:21,589 --> 02:14:18,320
yeah i love this

3732
02:14:23,750 --> 02:14:21,599
absolutely so so this is just my

3733
02:14:25,589 --> 02:14:23,760
matthew roberts yes that is that is

3734
02:14:28,470 --> 02:14:25,599
lightning they they took this and there

3735
02:14:30,629 --> 02:14:28,480
was a storm off in the distance um and

3736
02:14:33,350 --> 02:14:30,639
so that is lightning

3737
02:14:34,950 --> 02:14:33,360
and it was still daytime but the storm

3738
02:14:37,270 --> 02:14:34,960
had rolled in so it made everything look

3739
02:14:38,550 --> 02:14:37,280
really dark and they said they didn't

3740
02:14:39,750 --> 02:14:38,560
get any rain but there was a lot of

3741
02:14:41,910 --> 02:14:39,760
thunder and a lot of lightning and

3742
02:14:44,310 --> 02:14:41,920
that's why they started snapping photos

3743
02:14:46,950 --> 02:14:44,320
so fun fact matthew roberts is actually

3744
02:14:49,350 --> 02:14:46,960
he was a navy witness to one of the ufo

3745
02:14:51,510 --> 02:14:49,360
events i think on uh the

3746
02:14:52,550 --> 02:14:51,520
teddy roosevelt i i he's pretty public

3747
02:14:55,350 --> 02:14:52,560
he's written a book about it called

3748
02:14:56,790 --> 02:14:55,360
initiated um but he's he's a witness i

3749
02:14:58,310 --> 02:14:56,800
asked him if he would come in here so

3750
02:15:01,750 --> 02:14:58,320
i'm happy to see him in here he's got a

3751
02:15:03,589 --> 02:15:01,760
scientific mind um a technical mind i i

3752
02:15:04,709 --> 02:15:03,599
think so yeah it's i'm glad to see him

3753
02:15:06,149 --> 02:15:04,719
commenting

3754
02:15:07,430 --> 02:15:06,159
that's cool that's cool i like that

3755
02:15:09,910 --> 02:15:07,440
matthew

3756
02:15:13,270 --> 02:15:11,669
i'll do that

3757
02:15:14,550 --> 02:15:13,280
okay thanks

3758
02:15:17,510 --> 02:15:14,560
all right see you guys later he's a

3759
02:15:18,950 --> 02:15:17,520
pretty cool dude he really is and and

3760
02:15:21,189 --> 02:15:18,960
yeah i think we need more people like

3761
02:15:23,030 --> 02:15:21,199
him uh to come forward and to be able to

3762
02:15:24,950 --> 02:15:23,040
talk about things that they've seen and

3763
02:15:26,870 --> 02:15:24,960
it's as crazy as they sound right um but

3764
02:15:28,709 --> 02:15:26,880
i think he yeah he's a really cool guy

3765
02:15:29,990 --> 02:15:28,719
dude it's cool welcome matthew roberts

3766
02:15:33,189 --> 02:15:30,000
hell yeah man that's awesome we'd love

3767
02:15:35,589 --> 02:15:33,199
to chat sometime man hit us up dude yeah

3768
02:15:36,470 --> 02:15:35,599
do it matt hit him up buddy

3769
02:15:38,709 --> 02:15:36,480
yeah

3770
02:15:41,270 --> 02:15:38,719
jesus dude hurry up

3771
02:15:43,109 --> 02:15:41,280
do it already it's been too long

3772
02:15:44,870 --> 02:15:43,119
all right we've waited a long enough

3773
02:15:48,790 --> 02:15:44,880
yeah by the way i know it's getting late

3774
02:15:50,950 --> 02:15:48,800
it's 11 30 my time yeah yeah i i i

3775
02:15:53,669 --> 02:15:50,960
i so i'm definitely aware of time

3776
02:15:56,470 --> 02:15:53,679
progressing uh

3777
02:15:58,790 --> 02:15:56,480
yeah no dude i i literally i feel like

3778
02:16:01,430 --> 02:15:58,800
we just sat down and straight

3779
02:16:03,270 --> 02:16:01,440
i i enjoy this with you guys yeah dude i

3780
02:16:04,870 --> 02:16:03,280
have so many more questions i could talk

3781
02:16:07,750 --> 02:16:04,880
to you for hours brother

3782
02:16:10,470 --> 02:16:07,760
i i mean you'll be on again so

3783
02:16:12,950 --> 02:16:10,480
maybe i don't know

3784
02:16:14,069 --> 02:16:12,960
i i it really is it's it's hard for me

3785
02:16:15,109 --> 02:16:14,079
you know it's it

3786
02:16:16,790 --> 02:16:15,119
it's

3787
02:16:19,270 --> 02:16:16,800
being public about these things exposing

3788
02:16:22,069 --> 02:16:19,280
yourself to the

3789
02:16:24,470 --> 02:16:22,079
ridicule the ostracization all of those

3790
02:16:26,950 --> 02:16:24,480
things i do fundamentally identify as an

3791
02:16:28,629 --> 02:16:26,960
experiencer and um

3792
02:16:32,790 --> 02:16:28,639
yeah so i don't

3793
02:16:34,629 --> 02:16:32,800
give it some time right never know yeah

3794
02:16:37,110 --> 02:16:34,639
and i'm just i'm just throwing this out

3795
02:16:38,629 --> 02:16:37,120
there and i mean if you say no that's

3796
02:16:41,110 --> 02:16:38,639
totally fine talk about consciousness

3797
02:16:43,589 --> 02:16:41,120
too some more uh i think diana pasuka

3798
02:16:45,030 --> 02:16:43,599
gary nolan had a terrific interview with

3799
02:16:46,230 --> 02:16:45,040
theories of everything today i think

3800
02:16:47,830 --> 02:16:46,240
people should go watch that because i

3801
02:16:51,589 --> 02:16:47,840
think it is

3802
02:16:53,990 --> 02:16:51,599
fire right so good yeah yes

3803
02:16:56,549 --> 02:16:54,000
with kurt yeah absolutely he asked

3804
02:17:00,549 --> 02:16:56,559
incredibly scientifically oriented

3805
02:17:02,870 --> 02:17:00,559
questions with logic and math and all

3806
02:17:05,030 --> 02:17:02,880
kinds of great stuff uh so

3807
02:17:06,790 --> 02:17:05,040
um yeah absolutely check out gary nolan

3808
02:17:08,870 --> 02:17:06,800
he's doing real research with real

3809
02:17:12,870 --> 02:17:08,880
evidence like a science an actual

3810
02:17:14,629 --> 02:17:12,880
scientist with a degree and all yeah

3811
02:17:16,870 --> 02:17:14,639
and uh

3812
02:17:18,549 --> 02:17:16,880
yeah he's uh he's the doctor by the way

3813
02:17:20,309 --> 02:17:18,559
i don't know theories of everything i

3814
02:17:21,830 --> 02:17:20,319
i'm not i just mentioned it because gary

3815
02:17:22,709 --> 02:17:21,840
nolan is an awesome person and and i

3816
02:17:26,309 --> 02:17:22,719
think people should check out his

3817
02:17:28,389 --> 02:17:26,319
research yeah dude uh gary nolan is dude

3818
02:17:31,110 --> 02:17:28,399
that that interview today was freaking

3819
02:17:32,549 --> 02:17:31,120
fire um also uh

3820
02:17:34,709 --> 02:17:32,559
eric mitchell

3821
02:17:37,910 --> 02:17:34,719
uh the dude we're doing a documentary

3822
02:17:39,750 --> 02:17:37,920
about reached out to gary nolan back in

3823
02:17:40,830 --> 02:17:39,760
2013

3824
02:17:42,389 --> 02:17:40,840
and

3825
02:17:43,110 --> 02:17:42,399
oh

3826
02:17:44,070 --> 02:17:43,120
yeah

3827
02:17:46,709 --> 02:17:44,080
dude

3828
02:17:48,950 --> 02:17:46,719
yes so he he reached out to gary nolan

3829
02:17:51,910 --> 02:17:48,960
and said i mean i've got the email man

3830
02:17:54,469 --> 02:17:51,920
like it's it says like

3831
02:17:55,990 --> 02:17:54,479
well went to the documentary but like

3832
02:17:58,790 --> 02:17:56,000
yeah i want to see it it basically

3833
02:18:00,230 --> 02:17:58,800
confirms the the location in the brain

3834
02:18:03,030 --> 02:18:00,240
which is

3835
02:18:08,870 --> 02:18:03,040
today the con catatemon

3836
02:18:13,110 --> 02:18:10,389
and then the basil

3837
02:18:14,790 --> 02:18:13,120
basal ganglia yeah yeah

3838
02:18:15,830 --> 02:18:14,800
i think there's real science going into

3839
02:18:17,910 --> 02:18:15,840
this and i think we're gonna get some

3840
02:18:19,270 --> 02:18:17,920
answers about consciousness i have

3841
02:18:20,950 --> 02:18:19,280
nothing to back that up other than

3842
02:18:24,150 --> 02:18:20,960
opinions i think we might get some

3843
02:18:26,389 --> 02:18:24,160
answers on telepathy as well i think i

3844
02:18:28,469 --> 02:18:26,399
think we're gonna i sure hope we do but

3845
02:18:30,950 --> 02:18:28,479
i think we are too the signs the magic

3846
02:18:32,230 --> 02:18:30,960
eight ball the signs point to yes right

3847
02:18:35,190 --> 02:18:32,240
yes dude

3848
02:18:37,669 --> 02:18:35,200
next time we gotta get into esp

3849
02:18:39,830 --> 02:18:37,679
oh my god i do the trainer i saw the

3850
02:18:42,629 --> 02:18:39,840
picture you that of the the app that i

3851
02:18:43,669 --> 02:18:42,639
sent you so real quick i mean i know we

3852
02:18:45,830 --> 02:18:43,679
like

3853
02:18:48,070 --> 02:18:45,840
you know i'm enjoying this time but yeah

3854
02:18:50,150 --> 02:18:48,080
we're not like a specific deadline we

3855
02:18:51,509 --> 02:18:50,160
can go whenever we want but i mean uh

3856
02:18:53,750 --> 02:18:51,519
you know

3857
02:18:56,870 --> 02:18:53,760
just real quick i i do want to i do want

3858
02:19:00,790 --> 02:18:56,880
to share this yeah i think it's neat

3859
02:19:02,469 --> 02:19:00,800
so the the images that you sent me were

3860
02:19:04,549 --> 02:19:02,479
explain these these

3861
02:19:06,709 --> 02:19:04,559
this is a this is an app called esp

3862
02:19:09,750 --> 02:19:06,719
trainer right um

3863
02:19:11,509 --> 02:19:09,760
ignore the the editorialization of esp

3864
02:19:13,030 --> 02:19:11,519
ability present we don't know that we

3865
02:19:14,150 --> 02:19:13,040
just know that you did better than

3866
02:19:16,790 --> 02:19:14,160
chance right

3867
02:19:19,190 --> 02:19:16,800
but it is an app that i believe

3868
02:19:20,709 --> 02:19:19,200
was developed by nasa and russell targ

3869
02:19:22,549 --> 02:19:20,719
which i know that people

3870
02:19:24,629 --> 02:19:22,559
have thoughts about russell targ

3871
02:19:27,750 --> 02:19:24,639
whatever but it's a

3872
02:19:30,629 --> 02:19:27,760
it picks one out of those random colors

3873
02:19:32,309 --> 02:19:30,639
randomly every time right and you get 24

3874
02:19:33,110 --> 02:19:32,319
tries to guess them all

3875
02:19:35,349 --> 02:19:33,120
and

3876
02:19:37,190 --> 02:19:35,359
uh

3877
02:19:39,669 --> 02:19:37,200
random chance would account for about

3878
02:19:41,669 --> 02:19:39,679
one in four correct guesses right if you

3879
02:19:43,910 --> 02:19:41,679
were getting a random chance now this is

3880
02:19:45,830 --> 02:19:43,920
just a data point in the psychic

3881
02:19:47,270 --> 02:19:45,840
phenomenon or

3882
02:19:49,030 --> 02:19:47,280
you know greater consciousness or

3883
02:19:50,710 --> 02:19:49,040
whatever doesn't necessarily mean

3884
02:19:53,030 --> 02:19:50,720
anything but these are things that i

3885
02:19:55,270 --> 02:19:53,040
these are my scores after a few attempts

3886
02:19:56,550 --> 02:19:55,280
in a row or whatever so

3887
02:19:58,790 --> 02:19:56,560
again you look at it in terms of

3888
02:20:01,110 --> 02:19:58,800
statistics likelihood of being

3889
02:20:03,510 --> 02:20:01,120
on or off and you see in this one for

3890
02:20:05,030 --> 02:20:03,520
example i got six seven eight out of 24

3891
02:20:07,270 --> 02:20:05,040
which is one in three

3892
02:20:08,790 --> 02:20:07,280
which is significantly better than one

3893
02:20:09,830 --> 02:20:08,800
in four which would account for random

3894
02:20:11,830 --> 02:20:09,840
chance i actually wrote a computer

3895
02:20:13,590 --> 02:20:11,840
program to just randomly pick one number

3896
02:20:14,950 --> 02:20:13,600
out of one through four and randomly

3897
02:20:16,469 --> 02:20:14,960
pick another number out of one through

3898
02:20:18,070 --> 02:20:16,479
four and see how many times

3899
02:20:21,030 --> 02:20:18,080
the random pickups were correct and it

3900
02:20:23,510 --> 02:20:21,040
came out 24 25 times out of 100

3901
02:20:26,309 --> 02:20:23,520
etcetera twenty about one and four

3902
02:20:29,030 --> 02:20:26,319
um so these are i consistently fairly

3903
02:20:32,070 --> 02:20:29,040
consistently in at least this run um i

3904
02:20:35,590 --> 02:20:32,080
got one in three or better um so eight

3905
02:20:37,670 --> 02:20:35,600
out of 24 would be a one in three chance

3906
02:20:39,190 --> 02:20:37,680
you know um

3907
02:20:41,830 --> 02:20:39,200
it could be chance right you get on a

3908
02:20:43,190 --> 02:20:41,840
roll sometimes it's like las vegas uh

3909
02:20:44,870 --> 02:20:43,200
yeah maybe i got it right but this one

3910
02:20:46,550 --> 02:20:44,880
had nine out of 24.

3911
02:20:48,150 --> 02:20:46,560
better than one in three right and you

3912
02:20:49,510 --> 02:20:48,160
can see the timestamps they were i think

3913
02:20:51,270 --> 02:20:49,520
they were fairly consecutive and it

3914
02:20:52,950 --> 02:20:51,280
takes a little while to do these things

3915
02:20:55,429 --> 02:20:52,960
again this is not proof of anything

3916
02:20:57,429 --> 02:20:55,439
other than i used this app

3917
02:20:59,030 --> 02:20:57,439
and got a little bit better than chance

3918
02:21:00,389 --> 02:20:59,040
right but those are the same conclusions

3919
02:21:03,590 --> 02:21:00,399
that the stargate program which i did

3920
02:21:05,270 --> 02:21:03,600
live near by the way right um they came

3921
02:21:07,510 --> 02:21:05,280
to some similar conclusions that that

3922
02:21:09,670 --> 02:21:07,520
things like psychic phenomena are

3923
02:21:12,230 --> 02:21:09,680
slightly better than chance and you can

3924
02:21:13,910 --> 02:21:12,240
have rock stars that get 90 or whatever

3925
02:21:15,910 --> 02:21:13,920
but you can have people that and i

3926
02:21:17,510 --> 02:21:15,920
firmly believe that this is a by the way

3927
02:21:21,110 --> 02:21:17,520
i just believe that these kind of

3928
02:21:23,349 --> 02:21:21,120
phenomena are common to human experience

3929
02:21:24,550 --> 02:21:23,359
and i believe that anybody can do them

3930
02:21:25,590 --> 02:21:24,560
and i believe that that that's the

3931
02:21:26,710 --> 02:21:25,600
connection back to charismatic

3932
02:21:29,270 --> 02:21:26,720
christianity because they actually

3933
02:21:31,590 --> 02:21:29,280
practice these things and train in i

3934
02:21:33,990 --> 02:21:31,600
think it is extra sensory perception or

3935
02:21:35,429 --> 02:21:34,000
uh things like that right and so

3936
02:21:37,910 --> 02:21:35,439
this was part of my attempt to

3937
02:21:39,270 --> 02:21:37,920
scientifically gather data theoretically

3938
02:21:41,030 --> 02:21:39,280
if i was

3939
02:21:43,190 --> 02:21:41,040
again it's just a data point it's

3940
02:21:44,309 --> 02:21:43,200
doesn't mean anything it's one piece of

3941
02:21:45,670 --> 02:21:44,319
facts

3942
02:21:46,790 --> 02:21:45,680
that potentially supports something or

3943
02:21:49,030 --> 02:21:46,800
doesn't support it and you make up your

3944
02:21:51,349 --> 02:21:49,040
own opinions right but it is

3945
02:21:54,550 --> 02:21:51,359
it's an app that i did several times i

3946
02:21:57,590 --> 02:21:54,560
did okay that doesn't mean necessarily

3947
02:21:59,349 --> 02:21:57,600
that there's anything to it but

3948
02:22:00,150 --> 02:21:59,359
at some point you start looking and and

3949
02:22:01,750 --> 02:22:00,160
see

3950
02:22:02,870 --> 02:22:01,760
maybe yeah

3951
02:22:07,830 --> 02:22:02,880
yeah

3952
02:22:10,950 --> 02:22:07,840
not uh specific to one person i don't

3953
02:22:12,950 --> 02:22:10,960
think that everybody has the ability um

3954
02:22:15,349 --> 02:22:12,960
some of us maybe practice it more than

3955
02:22:17,750 --> 02:22:15,359
others some unconsciously maybe

3956
02:22:21,030 --> 02:22:17,760
practicing it more than others and some

3957
02:22:24,230 --> 02:22:21,040
who do have contact of sorts probably

3958
02:22:26,230 --> 02:22:24,240
have it more than others yeah i i think

3959
02:22:27,510 --> 02:22:26,240
that it's a i i really do and again i

3960
02:22:29,670 --> 02:22:27,520
have nothing to back this up other than

3961
02:22:32,230 --> 02:22:29,680
the fact that i claim these experiences

3962
02:22:34,230 --> 02:22:32,240
and i claim to have ufo sightings right

3963
02:22:36,150 --> 02:22:34,240
i think that they are interested in

3964
02:22:37,750 --> 02:22:36,160
investigating the psychic abilities of

3965
02:22:39,830 --> 02:22:37,760
humans i think that's one of the things

3966
02:22:41,510 --> 02:22:39,840
they're in interested in um and i

3967
02:22:45,910 --> 02:22:41,520
believe that there are human hot spots

3968
02:22:47,270 --> 02:22:45,920
as well epic hot spots um yep so uh

3969
02:22:48,630 --> 02:22:47,280
but that starts that's where the

3970
02:22:50,550 --> 02:22:48,640
creepiness starts for me and start

3971
02:22:53,910 --> 02:22:50,560
thinking about family cursing

3972
02:22:56,870 --> 02:22:53,920
stuff that sounds like creepy stuff um

3973
02:22:59,349 --> 02:22:56,880
you know who knows

3974
02:23:01,670 --> 02:22:59,359
it's gonna be so fun when we figure out

3975
02:23:02,710 --> 02:23:01,680
that like all these folklore things that

3976
02:23:04,630 --> 02:23:02,720
we

3977
02:23:07,270 --> 02:23:04,640
take for granted

3978
02:23:08,790 --> 02:23:07,280
turn out to be somewhat rooted

3979
02:23:10,950 --> 02:23:08,800
and scientific

3980
02:23:12,710 --> 02:23:10,960
i think

3981
02:23:14,070 --> 02:23:12,720
the reason that i'm science

3982
02:23:14,790 --> 02:23:14,080
absolutely the reason i'm coming out now

3983
02:23:16,150 --> 02:23:14,800
and

3984
02:23:18,389 --> 02:23:16,160
i'm willing to take the heat is because

3985
02:23:20,710 --> 02:23:18,399
fundamentally that my theories will be

3986
02:23:23,830 --> 02:23:20,720
vindicated and i am

3987
02:23:25,750 --> 02:23:23,840
stepping forward now when it makes no

3988
02:23:28,309 --> 02:23:25,760
ridicule and ostracize

3989
02:23:29,910 --> 02:23:28,319
because i firmly believe that these

3990
02:23:31,349 --> 02:23:29,920
theories that there's

3991
02:23:33,190 --> 02:23:31,359
something to them and that science will

3992
02:23:34,150 --> 02:23:33,200
prove them out and prove

3993
02:23:35,429 --> 02:23:34,160
uh

3994
02:23:37,270 --> 02:23:35,439
a lot of things i believe it's on the

3995
02:23:39,190 --> 02:23:37,280
horizon and that's why

3996
02:23:40,950 --> 02:23:39,200
i'm talking about now is because i have

3997
02:23:43,990 --> 02:23:40,960
the confidence after having gone through

3998
02:23:46,950 --> 02:23:44,000
my own experiences to say that i firmly

3999
02:23:48,230 --> 02:23:46,960
believe these things and a face behind

4000
02:23:50,389 --> 02:23:48,240
the name

4001
02:23:51,349 --> 02:23:50,399
so that's yeah uh i think there's some

4002
02:23:52,950 --> 02:23:51,359
interesting things on the horizon and

4003
02:23:55,030 --> 02:23:52,960
i'm looking to gary nolan and diana

4004
02:23:56,950 --> 02:23:55,040
pasulka read american cosmic if you

4005
02:23:59,190 --> 02:23:56,960
haven't um it's a terrific book there's

4006
02:24:01,110 --> 02:23:59,200
so many good authors out there um on

4007
02:24:03,110 --> 02:24:01,120
this topic there's plenty of research

4008
02:24:04,630 --> 02:24:03,120
that's been done we have a lot of

4009
02:24:06,070 --> 02:24:04,640
answers already

4010
02:24:09,349 --> 02:24:06,080
i think the government's confirming this

4011
02:24:12,950 --> 02:24:09,359
stuff i think we're in for a wild ride

4012
02:24:14,790 --> 02:24:12,960
whoa heck yeah the run on that

4013
02:24:17,030 --> 02:24:14,800
thank you brother you know you got to

4014
02:24:19,990 --> 02:24:17,040
come back though

4015
02:24:22,630 --> 02:24:20,000
i i it's not a no it's not a no uh i i'm

4016
02:24:23,510 --> 02:24:22,640
going to have to it it it's hard right

4017
02:24:24,790 --> 02:24:23,520
um

4018
02:24:26,790 --> 02:24:24,800
yeah

4019
02:24:29,190 --> 02:24:26,800
keep keep bugging me

4020
02:24:30,870 --> 02:24:29,200
i know you will chat brother uh i have

4021
02:24:32,230 --> 02:24:30,880
so many thoughts i have so many thoughts

4022
02:24:34,950 --> 02:24:32,240
i want to express that

4023
02:24:37,750 --> 02:24:34,960
that was just a sincere you know just uh

4024
02:24:40,070 --> 02:24:37,760
i guess a sentiment of of how much you

4025
02:24:41,910 --> 02:24:40,080
know i i respect you for for putting

4026
02:24:44,070 --> 02:24:41,920
yourself out there like this is not an

4027
02:24:47,270 --> 02:24:44,080
easy thing to do you know no it's yeah

4028
02:24:48,870 --> 02:24:47,280
it's hard uh and i i said on reddit i i

4029
02:24:50,790 --> 02:24:48,880
legit spend a few nights crying on my

4030
02:24:53,110 --> 02:24:50,800
patio um it put a strain on my

4031
02:24:55,990 --> 02:24:53,120
relationship with my wife

4032
02:24:58,790 --> 02:24:56,000
and i will get emotional about that yeah

4033
02:25:01,670 --> 02:24:58,800
uh it's a hard experience uh

4034
02:25:03,510 --> 02:25:01,680
but i firmly i i i am firmly in the camp

4035
02:25:06,790 --> 02:25:03,520
of you i don't mind if people don't

4036
02:25:09,510 --> 02:25:06,800
believe me it's okay right uh

4037
02:25:11,270 --> 02:25:09,520
but it was hard uh and yeah and and the

4038
02:25:13,830 --> 02:25:11,280
people like you guys and the throwaway

4039
02:25:14,870 --> 02:25:13,840
alien subreddit and the muffin 32 or

4040
02:25:16,230 --> 02:25:14,880
whatever

4041
02:25:17,429 --> 02:25:16,240
honestly

4042
02:25:18,950 --> 02:25:17,439
helped me so much and i think they

4043
02:25:21,590 --> 02:25:18,960
helped a lot of people and there are so

4044
02:25:23,429 --> 02:25:21,600
many great people right uh in the world

4045
02:25:25,270 --> 02:25:23,439
and so yeah thanks for for being cool

4046
02:25:26,150 --> 02:25:25,280
guys and and for listening with an open

4047
02:25:27,830 --> 02:25:26,160
mind

4048
02:25:29,750 --> 02:25:27,840
regardless of whatever evidence i've

4049
02:25:31,510 --> 02:25:29,760
presented maybe it's convincing and

4050
02:25:33,670 --> 02:25:31,520
maybe it's not but that's the evidence

4051
02:25:35,990 --> 02:25:33,680
that i've got um and thanks for

4052
02:25:38,309 --> 02:25:36,000
listening to me and letting me come out

4053
02:25:39,349 --> 02:25:38,319
and and try to talk about this stuff uh

4054
02:25:42,150 --> 02:25:39,359
because i think we should talk about

4055
02:25:43,910 --> 02:25:42,160
this stuff dude absolutely man

4056
02:25:46,070 --> 02:25:43,920
that's what this place is all about man

4057
02:25:48,230 --> 02:25:46,080
yeah yeah that's what the garage is all

4058
02:25:49,349 --> 02:25:48,240
about you know just getting together

4059
02:25:52,150 --> 02:25:49,359
talking about

4060
02:25:54,469 --> 02:25:52,160
really cool stuff and drinking some beer

4061
02:25:57,110 --> 02:25:54,479
all things weird baby all these weird

4062
02:25:58,870 --> 02:25:57,120
baby puffs yeah

4063
02:26:00,630 --> 02:25:58,880
i love it man it's been a great time it

4064
02:26:01,750 --> 02:26:00,640
really has i've i really have enjoyed

4065
02:26:03,270 --> 02:26:01,760
this and so thank you for the

4066
02:26:04,950 --> 02:26:03,280
conversation guys and thank you for uh

4067
02:26:06,309 --> 02:26:04,960
for

4068
02:26:08,070 --> 02:26:06,319
talking to people about it because

4069
02:26:10,150 --> 02:26:08,080
that's what it takes it takes feet on

4070
02:26:11,830 --> 02:26:10,160
the ground talking getting getting

4071
02:26:14,309 --> 02:26:11,840
stories talking to people finding the

4072
02:26:15,990 --> 02:26:14,319
evidence finding the facts sorting the

4073
02:26:17,670 --> 02:26:16,000
wheat from the chaff i think we'll get

4074
02:26:19,590 --> 02:26:17,680
there the more brains we have to throw

4075
02:26:21,830 --> 02:26:19,600
at this thing the quicker we'll come to

4076
02:26:24,309 --> 02:26:21,840
answers so yeah i think you guys are

4077
02:26:26,389 --> 02:26:24,319
awesome love that awesome man

4078
02:26:28,550 --> 02:26:26,399
thank you man can't thank you enough

4079
02:26:29,670 --> 02:26:28,560
dude thank you yes thanks for coming on

4080
02:26:31,349 --> 02:26:29,680
man

4081
02:26:34,230 --> 02:26:31,359
thank you all hey we'll be in touch

4082
02:26:35,110 --> 02:26:34,240
brother for sure definitely all right

4083
02:26:38,469 --> 02:26:35,120
man

4084
02:26:41,010 --> 02:26:38,479
uh we'll see you next time

4085
02:26:45,429 --> 02:26:41,100
[Music]

4086
02:26:49,190 --> 02:26:45,439
[Laughter]

4087
02:26:51,510 --> 02:26:49,200
it was and he's back and he's gone

4088
02:26:52,950 --> 02:26:51,520
that's how we do it man yeah

4089
02:26:56,389 --> 02:26:52,960
oh

4090
02:26:59,990 --> 02:26:56,399
baby heck yeah man that was great i i uh

4091
02:27:01,670 --> 02:27:00,000
dude i thoroughly enjoyed that you know

4092
02:27:02,469 --> 02:27:01,680
how long have you been sitting on that

4093
02:27:03,800 --> 02:27:02,479
one

4094
02:27:05,910 --> 02:27:03,810
since the beginning

4095
02:27:07,980 --> 02:27:05,920
[Laughter]

4096
02:27:10,550 --> 02:27:07,990
i was like i'm going to use this

4097
02:27:11,510 --> 02:27:10,560
[Laughter]

4098
02:27:15,590 --> 02:27:11,520
yeah

4099
02:27:17,270 --> 02:27:15,600
ending was awkward because

4100
02:27:19,349 --> 02:27:17,280
for me because i just want to give him a

4101
02:27:22,070 --> 02:27:19,359
hug you know

4102
02:27:24,309 --> 02:27:22,080
like that full dude like i i actually

4103
02:27:26,790 --> 02:27:24,319
got to gotten to know him uh like on a

4104
02:27:28,550 --> 02:27:26,800
personal level dude and it's it's it's

4105
02:27:31,590 --> 02:27:28,560
been really really awesome i think of

4106
02:27:34,150 --> 02:27:31,600
him as our friend and uh

4107
02:27:37,590 --> 02:27:34,160
man it's just it's just uh

4108
02:27:39,030 --> 02:27:37,600
whatever whatever comes of this you know

4109
02:27:41,349 --> 02:27:39,040
there's there's gonna be a lot of people

4110
02:27:43,590 --> 02:27:41,359
that that that say he's not who he says

4111
02:27:45,830 --> 02:27:43,600
he is but but i mean that's the obvious

4112
02:27:48,870 --> 02:27:45,840
right i mean that's what you expect who

4113
02:27:50,550 --> 02:27:48,880
cares honestly like i'm convinced

4114
02:27:53,030 --> 02:27:50,560
and that doesn't even matter like i was

4115
02:27:54,790 --> 02:27:53,040
like over that after we got on to the

4116
02:27:58,230 --> 02:27:54,800
next subject it was like actually no

4117
02:28:02,469 --> 02:27:58,240
none of that throw alien [\h__\h] matters

4118
02:28:05,110 --> 02:28:02,479
now that we're onto this [\h__\h] dude yeah

4119
02:28:07,590 --> 02:28:05,120
and what i mean by that is is is the

4120
02:28:09,830 --> 02:28:07,600
stuff that we got into the the uh the

4121
02:28:11,510 --> 02:28:09,840
psychological aspects of being an

4122
02:28:13,190 --> 02:28:11,520
experiencer

4123
02:28:14,630 --> 02:28:13,200
here going through stuff how it affects

4124
02:28:16,710 --> 02:28:14,640
your family

4125
02:28:19,830 --> 02:28:16,720
how it can affect

4126
02:28:22,230 --> 02:28:19,840
every aspect of your life dude

4127
02:28:23,270 --> 02:28:22,240
even if you don't claim to say hey yeah

4128
02:28:25,910 --> 02:28:23,280
i was

4129
02:28:28,469 --> 02:28:25,920
you know taking a board a space a

4130
02:28:30,309 --> 02:28:28,479
spacecraft by a great alien

4131
02:28:33,590 --> 02:28:30,319
maybe it's something different maybe you

4132
02:28:36,230 --> 02:28:33,600
experience dreams um

4133
02:28:39,510 --> 02:28:36,240
the gamut goes wild but uh

4134
02:28:41,590 --> 02:28:39,520
i i think uh there's a lot of knowledge

4135
02:28:44,150 --> 02:28:41,600
uh that he he brought he brings to the

4136
02:28:46,389 --> 02:28:44,160
table and uh makes here uh ex

4137
02:28:47,990 --> 02:28:46,399
excited about uh

4138
02:28:49,429 --> 02:28:48,000
learning more

4139
02:28:51,190 --> 02:28:49,439
you know

4140
02:28:52,630 --> 02:28:51,200
and learning more from people just like

4141
02:28:55,429 --> 02:28:52,640
thoreau you know

4142
02:28:57,830 --> 02:28:55,439
coming out and saying look i did have

4143
02:29:00,630 --> 02:28:57,840
this i know there's got to be some

4144
02:29:03,190 --> 02:29:00,640
people out there that's like oh my god

4145
02:29:05,110 --> 02:29:03,200
i did have this one experience and i

4146
02:29:07,030 --> 02:29:05,120
would never tell anybody i've told like

4147
02:29:09,030 --> 02:29:07,040
one person there's got to be like

4148
02:29:11,830 --> 02:29:09,040
rightly there's kind of yeah so many

4149
02:29:14,630 --> 02:29:11,840
people out there that's that that uh

4150
02:29:15,510 --> 02:29:14,640
have had that crazy dream that felt so

4151
02:29:22,469 --> 02:29:15,520
real

4152
02:29:25,030 --> 02:29:22,479
uh and and that are just keeping it uh i

4153
02:29:26,630 --> 02:29:25,040
keep getting a secret based off of like

4154
02:29:29,110 --> 02:29:26,640
oh i don't want to be vulnerable and

4155
02:29:29,990 --> 02:29:29,120
tell people and like be weird

4156
02:29:31,590 --> 02:29:30,000
hey

4157
02:29:33,830 --> 02:29:31,600
you can come share it on the garage if

4158
02:29:35,510 --> 02:29:33,840
you want to hell yeah man

4159
02:29:37,510 --> 02:29:35,520
i think it's important to just get that

4160
02:29:39,110 --> 02:29:37,520
[\h__\h] out there you know absolutely

4161
02:29:40,150 --> 02:29:39,120
absolutely

4162
02:29:41,910 --> 02:29:40,160
yeah

4163
02:29:45,190 --> 02:29:41,920
i agree man

4164
02:29:47,590 --> 02:29:45,200
hey if i if if i sounded i if i sounded

4165
02:29:50,309 --> 02:29:47,600
a little negative a little earlier i

4166
02:29:51,750 --> 02:29:50,319
apologize to everyone just spin like i

4167
02:29:53,590 --> 02:29:51,760
hate the like

4168
02:29:55,590 --> 02:29:53,600
i went just people are being [\h__\h]

4169
02:29:57,110 --> 02:29:55,600
like there's no reason for that you know

4170
02:29:59,590 --> 02:29:57,120
we're talking about talking about the

4171
02:30:02,550 --> 02:29:59,600
the dude yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i

4172
02:30:04,790 --> 02:30:02,560
i just calling his virgins i i reeled it

4173
02:30:07,429 --> 02:30:04,800
in i reeled it in you're you're right mr

4174
02:30:10,309 --> 02:30:07,439
grey owl i got it i was it was just

4175
02:30:12,230 --> 02:30:10,319
pissing me off i just i hate like

4176
02:30:14,309 --> 02:30:12,240
like you're just me being mean to people

4177
02:30:16,950 --> 02:30:14,319
you know and the whole thing is dude is

4178
02:30:20,150 --> 02:30:16,960
like we're so like we're pretty easy to

4179
02:30:22,150 --> 02:30:20,160
talk to and like we would very much so

4180
02:30:23,910 --> 02:30:22,160
love to hear the other side i mean

4181
02:30:26,790 --> 02:30:23,920
that's the whole point it's kind of like

4182
02:30:29,190 --> 02:30:26,800
part of it you know like

4183
02:30:30,950 --> 02:30:29,200
and that's cool just don't be an [\h__\h]

4184
02:30:32,550 --> 02:30:30,960
yeah

4185
02:30:35,110 --> 02:30:32,560
why do you have to be an [\h__\h]

4186
02:30:37,349 --> 02:30:35,120
you know that's that's all just when you

4187
02:30:39,510 --> 02:30:37,359
come here man this is a no [\h__\h] zone

4188
02:30:41,590 --> 02:30:39,520
just don't be an [\h__\h] and yeah you

4189
02:30:44,630 --> 02:30:41,600
can say whatever you want we you know

4190
02:30:46,550 --> 02:30:44,640
very rarely do we ban or edit anybody i

4191
02:30:48,150 --> 02:30:46,560
mean that's why they were still in here

4192
02:30:50,150 --> 02:30:48,160
i mean they have a right to say whatever

4193
02:30:52,790 --> 02:30:50,160
they want to yeah we highlight their

4194
02:30:54,710 --> 02:30:52,800
[\h__\h] most of the time it's it's you can

4195
02:30:57,429 --> 02:30:54,720
say whatever you want we're not [\h__\h]

4196
02:30:59,510 --> 02:30:57,439
censoring anybody whatsoever but like

4197
02:31:00,950 --> 02:30:59,520
when you're just being a blatant [\h__\h]

4198
02:31:02,870 --> 02:31:00,960
that's different we just don't do that

4199
02:31:03,830 --> 02:31:02,880
here you know there's a different room

4200
02:31:05,429 --> 02:31:03,840
for that i don't care if you're an

4201
02:31:07,750 --> 02:31:05,439
[\h__\h] but

4202
02:31:09,910 --> 02:31:07,760
don't be an [\h__\h] here

4203
02:31:10,950 --> 02:31:09,920
i want to say something so

4204
02:31:12,790 --> 02:31:10,960
dude

4205
02:31:15,270 --> 02:31:12,800
uh

4206
02:31:17,270 --> 02:31:15,280
tatinos pizza rolls

4207
02:31:20,790 --> 02:31:17,280
are delicious

4208
02:31:22,790 --> 02:31:20,800
we're sponsored by no uh i was gonna say

4209
02:31:26,070 --> 02:31:22,800
man i came across this video the other

4210
02:31:27,110 --> 02:31:26,080
day and this individual i have it saved

4211
02:31:30,469 --> 02:31:27,120
uh

4212
02:31:32,550 --> 02:31:30,479
he said some really awesome stuff

4213
02:31:34,150 --> 02:31:32,560
he said

4214
02:31:36,150 --> 02:31:34,160
a negative

4215
02:31:39,110 --> 02:31:36,160
aspect or somebody that's being negative

4216
02:31:43,110 --> 02:31:39,120
towards you is like a gift

4217
02:31:44,469 --> 02:31:43,120
you can choose to receive it or

4218
02:31:46,630 --> 02:31:44,479
not receive it

4219
02:31:49,190 --> 02:31:46,640
if someone comes at you with negativity

4220
02:31:51,270 --> 02:31:49,200
you can say i'm good

4221
02:31:52,630 --> 02:31:51,280
and then they keep that negativity they

4222
02:31:54,150 --> 02:31:52,640
keep that

4223
02:31:56,070 --> 02:31:54,160
you know it's like all

4224
02:31:57,110 --> 02:31:56,080
it's all wrapped into it's like a very

4225
02:31:59,110 --> 02:31:57,120
dumbed down

4226
02:32:03,270 --> 02:31:59,120
way to say look

4227
02:32:05,429 --> 02:32:03,280
hey no no no uh no negative vibes here

4228
02:32:06,790 --> 02:32:05,439
but it's so easy to say but like in

4229
02:32:08,389 --> 02:32:06,800
practice

4230
02:32:10,950 --> 02:32:08,399
keeping that that

4231
02:32:12,389 --> 02:32:10,960
that visualization like handing somebody

4232
02:32:13,990 --> 02:32:12,399
this negativity box are you going to

4233
02:32:16,469 --> 02:32:14,000
[\h__\h] take that

4234
02:32:18,230 --> 02:32:16,479
no i'm not going to take that poisonous

4235
02:32:19,670 --> 02:32:18,240
fart yeah i'm going to do this

4236
02:32:21,670 --> 02:32:19,680
i'm going to shove it up your [\h__\h]

4237
02:32:22,870 --> 02:32:21,680
ass for being an [\h__\h]

4238
02:32:24,790 --> 02:32:22,880
and then we're all going to laugh and

4239
02:32:26,309 --> 02:32:24,800
the negativity's gone you see you're

4240
02:32:30,550 --> 02:32:26,319
putting more fart

4241
02:32:32,309 --> 02:32:30,560
you're making that box more fun good

4242
02:32:33,910 --> 02:32:32,319
good because it's going back to him it

4243
02:32:36,830 --> 02:32:33,920
used to smell like eggs now it smells

4244
02:32:40,950 --> 02:32:36,840
like eggs and beef i like it eggs and

4245
02:32:42,630 --> 02:32:40,960
beef what's up good breakfast honestly

4246
02:32:44,870 --> 02:32:42,640
actually i'm [\h__\h] excited for

4247
02:32:46,210 --> 02:32:44,880
tomorrow morning now very nutritional

4248
02:32:48,150 --> 02:32:46,220
thanks a lot dude

4249
02:32:50,630 --> 02:32:48,160
[Music]

4250
02:32:53,190 --> 02:32:50,640
so like instead of like saying oh will

4251
02:32:55,190 --> 02:32:53,200
you give me uh negativity i only like

4252
02:32:57,910 --> 02:32:55,200
take it i am

4253
02:33:00,630 --> 02:32:57,920
taking it make it make myself stronger

4254
02:33:03,590 --> 02:33:00,640
like forget that just say no i'm good

4255
02:33:05,030 --> 02:33:03,600
just refuse that gift give it you know

4256
02:33:06,469 --> 02:33:05,040
you're not giving anything back you're

4257
02:33:08,150 --> 02:33:06,479
just refusing it

4258
02:33:10,150 --> 02:33:08,160
then you don't take on any of that

4259
02:33:12,150 --> 02:33:10,160
negativity you just move on man he's

4260
02:33:14,469 --> 02:33:12,160
just going about your day you go on

4261
02:33:16,550 --> 02:33:14,479
about and you're making tortillas i

4262
02:33:18,309 --> 02:33:16,560
don't know maybe you're in the back and

4263
02:33:21,510 --> 02:33:18,319
you're really good at it and everybody's

4264
02:33:24,790 --> 02:33:21,520
like yeah i can make those tortillas man

4265
02:33:26,230 --> 02:33:24,800
make them real good

4266
02:33:27,720 --> 02:33:26,240
we're doing that typical thing at the

4267
02:33:30,150 --> 02:33:27,730
end of the show we're just rambling

4268
02:33:40,790 --> 02:33:30,160
[Laughter]

4269
02:33:46,550 --> 02:33:42,550
i'm glad you said that ben

4270
02:33:47,580 --> 02:33:46,560
thanks man i'm more of a man you said it

4271
02:33:54,550 --> 02:33:47,590
no i'm

4272
02:34:00,070 --> 02:33:57,990
no longer accept stinky boxes no no

4273
02:34:00,950 --> 02:34:00,080
unless they have beef and eggs in them

4274
02:34:04,630 --> 02:34:00,960
bro

4275
02:34:06,230 --> 02:34:04,640
the best stinky boxes are full

4276
02:34:08,550 --> 02:34:06,240
beef and eggs

4277
02:34:09,429 --> 02:34:08,560
hell yeah they'll stick it's sticky too

4278
02:34:12,550 --> 02:34:09,439
it's like

4279
02:34:14,630 --> 02:34:12,560
me you can you could tell

4280
02:34:16,230 --> 02:34:14,640
from this uh

4281
02:34:17,990 --> 02:34:16,240
stink

4282
02:34:20,950 --> 02:34:18,000
from the box

4283
02:34:23,270 --> 02:34:20,960
hell yeah that's it for me

4284
02:34:24,630 --> 02:34:23,280
hey bro what's happening what's

4285
02:34:30,150 --> 02:34:24,640
happening this weekend

4286
02:34:32,230 --> 02:34:30,710
texas

4287
02:34:34,710 --> 02:34:32,240
[Music]

4288
02:34:36,630 --> 02:34:34,720
viva las vegas baby

4289
02:34:38,070 --> 02:34:36,640
we're coming in we're coming in man

4290
02:34:39,750 --> 02:34:38,080
we're going to be coming in hot we're

4291
02:34:41,510 --> 02:34:39,760
going to be hanging out if everybody

4292
02:34:43,750 --> 02:34:41,520
that's in the chat that's saying what's

4293
02:34:45,670 --> 02:34:43,760
up and y'all coming hanging out every

4294
02:34:47,429 --> 02:34:45,680
tuesday every thursday if y'all are

4295
02:34:49,030 --> 02:34:47,439
gonna be in vegas i want you to know

4296
02:34:50,230 --> 02:34:49,040
right now i'm not gonna know what you

4297
02:34:51,670 --> 02:34:50,240
look like

4298
02:34:53,429 --> 02:34:51,680
yeah no

4299
02:34:54,950 --> 02:34:53,439
i'm expecting like a bunch of people to

4300
02:34:56,790 --> 02:34:54,960
be like dude what's up and i'm gonna be

4301
02:34:58,630 --> 02:34:56,800
like hey

4302
02:35:00,950 --> 02:34:58,640
i know what sunny looks like i know what

4303
02:35:03,510 --> 02:35:00,960
jamie and brie look like you pretty much

4304
02:35:08,070 --> 02:35:03,520
are gonna have to introduce yourself as

4305
02:35:12,070 --> 02:35:11,030
and then we'll get it yeah i like it

4306
02:35:14,230 --> 02:35:12,080
dude

4307
02:35:16,070 --> 02:35:14,240
alabama tide coming to vegas did you

4308
02:35:16,870 --> 02:35:16,080
know that that sonny's coming sonny's

4309
02:35:18,630 --> 02:35:16,880
coming

4310
02:35:20,710 --> 02:35:18,640
oh yeah he sent me a beautiful picture

4311
02:35:21,750 --> 02:35:20,720
the other day i'm so excited i'm so

4312
02:35:25,490 --> 02:35:21,760
stunned

4313
02:35:32,950 --> 02:35:25,500
yeah dude it's jamie yes baby

4314
02:35:37,590 --> 02:35:35,190
john leer thing

4315
02:35:39,510 --> 02:35:37,600
is going to be is going to be

4316
02:35:41,990 --> 02:35:39,520
really cool i think tell me more about

4317
02:35:43,349 --> 02:35:42,000
that because john lear

4318
02:35:46,070 --> 02:35:43,359
r.i.p

4319
02:35:48,070 --> 02:35:46,080
yeah um let me let me actually let me

4320
02:35:49,750 --> 02:35:48,080
actually pull this up really quick i had

4321
02:35:51,990 --> 02:35:49,760
it on my phone i was looking at it

4322
02:35:56,469 --> 02:35:52,000
melinda leslie posted

4323
02:35:58,070 --> 02:35:56,479
a little bit earlier and let's see here

4324
02:36:00,950 --> 02:35:58,080
it was

4325
02:36:03,270 --> 02:36:00,960
they're doing on sunday celebration of

4326
02:36:04,870 --> 02:36:03,280
john lear's completion of existence in

4327
02:36:09,190 --> 02:36:04,880
human form

4328
02:36:11,030 --> 02:36:09,200
uh las vegas nevada to the moon uh yeah

4329
02:36:13,030 --> 02:36:11,040
dude it let's see where's it gonna be at

4330
02:36:14,630 --> 02:36:13,040
i'm not 100 sure on the details but if

4331
02:36:15,590 --> 02:36:14,640
you're in vegas

4332
02:36:17,990 --> 02:36:15,600
uh

4333
02:36:20,309 --> 02:36:18,000
there you can't see any of that sorry

4334
02:36:22,230 --> 02:36:20,319
but uh yeah there's tickets it's gonna

4335
02:36:25,590 --> 02:36:22,240
be it's gonna be dope i'm excited that's

4336
02:36:26,510 --> 02:36:25,600
gonna be pretty neat so dude that's

4337
02:36:29,110 --> 02:36:26,520
awesome

4338
02:36:31,910 --> 02:36:29,120
eventbrite.com you can register now i

4339
02:36:34,469 --> 02:36:31,920
think it's a free event it says

4340
02:36:36,950 --> 02:36:34,479
free register date and time sunday april

4341
02:36:38,950 --> 02:36:36,960
24th 2022

4342
02:36:42,230 --> 02:36:38,960
2 p.m to 4 p.m

4343
02:36:45,990 --> 02:36:42,240
uh location at the speakeasy 5675 west

4344
02:36:48,389 --> 02:36:46,000
sahara avenue las vegas nevada 89 146.

4345
02:36:50,469 --> 02:36:48,399
you can view the map uh please join us

4346
02:36:52,710 --> 02:36:50,479
in celebrating john lear his amazing

4347
02:36:54,150 --> 02:36:52,720
life and many accomplishments

4348
02:36:55,990 --> 02:36:54,160
and this is put on by the leer family

4349
02:36:56,870 --> 02:36:56,000
apparently so it's going to be really

4350
02:36:59,270 --> 02:36:56,880
cool

4351
02:37:01,590 --> 02:36:59,280
i think it's going to be something um

4352
02:37:05,830 --> 02:37:01,600
definitely worth attending

4353
02:37:07,670 --> 02:37:05,840
yeah good stuff hell yeah dude

4354
02:37:10,230 --> 02:37:07,680
also

4355
02:37:12,870 --> 02:37:10,240
this home page of the the golden nugget

4356
02:37:15,429 --> 02:37:12,880
where the event uh the sor event is

4357
02:37:19,429 --> 02:37:15,439
being held

4358
02:37:22,469 --> 02:37:20,550
was it

4359
02:37:24,070 --> 02:37:22,479
a night nightlife

4360
02:37:27,190 --> 02:37:24,080
night have a drink

4361
02:37:30,870 --> 02:37:29,110
well yeah it's a casino

4362
02:37:34,630 --> 02:37:30,880
we're just gonna walk in and walk out

4363
02:37:39,110 --> 02:37:37,590
everybody knows about troy

4364
02:37:41,030 --> 02:37:39,120
uh

4365
02:37:42,870 --> 02:37:41,040
like the rapper

4366
02:37:43,670 --> 02:37:42,880
the liquor bar joe

4367
02:37:44,870 --> 02:37:43,680
oh

4368
02:37:48,550 --> 02:37:44,880
i thought you were gonna want to be a

4369
02:37:52,309 --> 02:37:48,560
bottler i mean i we can

4370
02:37:54,070 --> 02:37:52,319
dude hey dude oh my god holy [\h__\h] okay

4371
02:37:56,230 --> 02:37:54,080
whoever's going to vegas whoever's in

4372
02:37:57,750 --> 02:37:56,240
the chat right now

4373
02:38:00,790 --> 02:37:57,760
i have an idea

4374
02:38:03,830 --> 02:38:00,800
oh i'm going to put in 50 bucks

4375
02:38:06,790 --> 02:38:03,840
everybody puts in 50 into a pile and we

4376
02:38:09,349 --> 02:38:06,800
all bet on black the moment we walk in

4377
02:38:11,590 --> 02:38:09,359
to the golden nugget casino

4378
02:38:13,270 --> 02:38:11,600
[\h__\h] dude no no no

4379
02:38:15,750 --> 02:38:13,280
how dope would that be they're gonna be

4380
02:38:17,349 --> 02:38:15,760
like they're gonna be like red and then

4381
02:38:19,910 --> 02:38:17,359
and then it's like [\h__\h] we're out of

4382
02:38:21,750 --> 02:38:19,920
like a thousand dollars no no no here's

4383
02:38:24,230 --> 02:38:21,760
the thing if enough people are thinking

4384
02:38:25,910 --> 02:38:24,240
about it and think black like

4385
02:38:28,309 --> 02:38:25,920
oh dude we could run our own

4386
02:38:29,830 --> 02:38:28,319
consciousness experiment in the casino

4387
02:38:31,980 --> 02:38:29,840
and then like we

4388
02:38:33,830 --> 02:38:31,990
will all take that money

4389
02:38:36,950 --> 02:38:33,840
[Music]

4390
02:38:39,830 --> 02:38:36,960
and donate 20 of it

4391
02:38:42,230 --> 02:38:39,840
honestly we are

4392
02:38:45,110 --> 02:38:42,240
we are legally we've said it everything

4393
02:38:47,830 --> 02:38:45,120
we make is 20 goes back to

4394
02:38:49,830 --> 02:38:47,840
uh experiencer groups and uap research

4395
02:38:54,389 --> 02:38:49,840
so yes 20

4396
02:38:57,830 --> 02:38:56,230
but how dope would that be everybody

4397
02:39:00,790 --> 02:38:57,840
thought about like hey let's all think

4398
02:39:02,469 --> 02:39:00,800
about let's go black just just the color

4399
02:39:03,990 --> 02:39:02,479
is red and black and well there's a

4400
02:39:05,830 --> 02:39:04,000
green but we don't have to think about

4401
02:39:09,510 --> 02:39:05,840
that green don't put that in your your

4402
02:39:12,469 --> 02:39:11,349
you know what i mean oh yeah i know what

4403
02:39:14,710 --> 02:39:12,479
you mean

4404
02:39:17,750 --> 02:39:14,720
so if everybody thought about like let's

4405
02:39:21,910 --> 02:39:17,760
go all in on black let's go baby

4406
02:39:27,190 --> 02:39:25,190
all i'm thinking is roll tide let's just

4407
02:39:30,150 --> 02:39:27,200
say i'll say roll tide at the same time

4408
02:39:31,910 --> 02:39:30,160
while we let's not while we let's not

4409
02:39:34,790 --> 02:39:31,920
say that put it in the

4410
02:39:36,309 --> 02:39:34,800
the ball goes around let's not let's not

4411
02:39:38,469 --> 02:39:36,319
say that no

4412
02:39:40,630 --> 02:39:38,479
ben's out of the conversation again i

4413
02:39:44,200 --> 02:39:40,640
pulled the plug on him and he said silly

4414
02:39:48,070 --> 02:39:45,510
[Music]

4415
02:39:50,830 --> 02:39:48,080
i was trying to put my back

4416
02:39:54,389 --> 02:39:50,840
uh dude yeah i'm talking about roulette

4417
02:39:57,270 --> 02:39:54,399
uh with betting on black by the way not

4418
02:39:58,389 --> 02:39:57,280
not like anything complicated roulette

4419
02:40:01,429 --> 02:39:58,399
roulette

4420
02:40:02,469 --> 02:40:01,439
i'm down

4421
02:40:05,349 --> 02:40:02,479
hello yeah

4422
02:40:07,590 --> 02:40:05,359
i've got 50 bucks you got

4423
02:40:11,110 --> 02:40:07,600
i got like 13 bucks

4424
02:40:14,710 --> 02:40:12,550
everybody thinks about

4425
02:40:19,190 --> 02:40:14,720
ufo garage sorr

4426
02:40:23,269 --> 02:40:19,200
the good times the positivity positivity

4427
02:40:28,020 --> 02:40:25,349
let's go

4428
02:40:33,110 --> 02:40:28,030
all right i've over explained

4429
02:40:36,020 --> 02:40:35,269
is that it are you going to keep going i

4430
02:40:39,670 --> 02:40:36,030
don't know

4431
02:40:41,269 --> 02:40:39,680
[Laughter]

4432
02:40:43,269 --> 02:40:41,279
oh you were like really issued i was

4433
02:40:47,990 --> 02:40:43,279
letting you i was letting you roll dude

4434
02:40:52,870 --> 02:40:50,660
there's a lot of noises back there dude

4435
02:40:54,630 --> 02:40:52,880
[Music]

4436
02:40:58,460 --> 02:40:54,640
you're having way too much fun with the

4437
02:40:58,470 --> 02:41:03,670
[Music]

4438
02:41:08,230 --> 02:41:05,750
hey i just wanted everybody to know

4439
02:41:11,510 --> 02:41:08,240
that uh this has been another episode of

4440
02:41:13,670 --> 02:41:11,520
ufo garage

4441
02:41:15,190 --> 02:41:13,680
oh [\h__\h] man um

4442
02:41:16,630 --> 02:41:15,200
ben's going to go see john mayer on

4443
02:41:20,790 --> 02:41:16,640
thursday so we won't be here but we'll

4444
02:41:25,510 --> 02:41:23,990
hell yeah dude we'll see y'all in vegas

4445
02:41:27,190 --> 02:41:25,520
i like how you slip that in you didn't

4446
02:41:28,469 --> 02:41:27,200
make fun of me but now i'm making fun of

4447
02:41:30,469 --> 02:41:28,479
myself

4448
02:41:32,469 --> 02:41:30,479
all i'm saying dude i love jumeirah

4449
02:41:34,389 --> 02:41:32,479
johnny is badass i think john mayer

4450
02:41:35,990 --> 02:41:34,399
shreds everybody knows that he is that

4451
02:41:38,070 --> 02:41:36,000
he wrote those crappy songs so we could

4452
02:41:40,550 --> 02:41:38,080
get some [\h__\h] everybody knows that but

4453
02:41:41,830 --> 02:41:40,560
he shreds and he's and he's amazing and

4454
02:41:43,670 --> 02:41:41,840
dead in company

4455
02:41:45,269 --> 02:41:43,680
which is really what you should go see

4456
02:41:46,950 --> 02:41:45,279
um

4457
02:41:48,630 --> 02:41:46,960
i'll be dead and company let's do it

4458
02:41:51,429 --> 02:41:48,640
come on we're not gonna go there i've

4459
02:41:53,590 --> 02:41:51,439
been waiting 15 years to hear you say

4460
02:41:56,630 --> 02:41:53,600
that john mayer shreds

4461
02:42:04,389 --> 02:41:56,640
john meredith shred that yes

4462
02:42:10,710 --> 02:42:07,030
this great music joe

4463
02:42:15,269 --> 02:42:13,349
they are that's true i can't even i

4464
02:42:17,110 --> 02:42:15,279
can't even you know i can't even argue

4465
02:42:18,950 --> 02:42:17,120
that they are all hits

4466
02:42:22,710 --> 02:42:18,960
i know they're looking but they're lame

4467
02:42:26,309 --> 02:42:24,630
it's like it's sexy like a sexy sleepy

4468
02:42:27,429 --> 02:42:26,319
though and then like you sleep people

4469
02:42:29,750 --> 02:42:27,439
you're also like

4470
02:42:31,349 --> 02:42:29,760
yeah no no i'm like sleepy and then my

4471
02:42:33,510 --> 02:42:31,359
wife starts getting all wet and then

4472
02:42:36,309 --> 02:42:33,520
she's like hey and i'm like yeah but

4473
02:42:38,469 --> 02:42:36,319
like i'm sleepy now john mayer it's just

4474
02:42:41,510 --> 02:42:38,479
it's it it's too divisive now if they

4475
02:42:43,269 --> 02:42:41,520
throw on some dead and company then okay

4476
02:42:45,190 --> 02:42:43,279
everybody's turned off everybody's

4477
02:42:47,670 --> 02:42:45,200
turned on right

4478
02:42:49,269 --> 02:42:47,680
well hell yeah depends on what

4479
02:42:51,349 --> 02:42:49,279
because collectively the grateful dead

4480
02:42:54,469 --> 02:42:51,359
is better than john mayer so when you

4481
02:43:00,550 --> 02:42:54,479
add john mayer into the grateful dead

4482
02:43:10,309 --> 02:43:04,469
yeah i like it i [\h__\h] love that dude

4483
02:43:15,429 --> 02:43:13,349
no it's sexy head

4484
02:43:20,950 --> 02:43:15,439
i really like sexy i like the way that

4485
02:43:26,309 --> 02:43:23,030
hell yeah daddy

4486
02:43:29,429 --> 02:43:26,319
oh [\h__\h] all right dude uh well hey you

4487
02:43:31,190 --> 02:43:29,439
guys all take it easy we love y'all uh

4488
02:43:33,590 --> 02:43:31,200
it's been a lot of fun dude it's been a

4489
02:43:36,710 --> 02:43:33,600
lot of fun yeah thank you guys for

4490
02:43:40,469 --> 02:43:36,720
hanging out love y'all

4491
02:43:44,309 --> 02:43:42,630
all right we'll talk to y'all later

4492
02:43:47,429 --> 02:43:44,319
why do you always do that you always do

4493
02:43:48,630 --> 02:43:47,439
that to me well you

4494
02:43:51,190 --> 02:43:48,640
you're supposed to pick it up pick up

4495
02:43:53,590 --> 02:43:51,200
the slack man yeah but i but uh but i do

4496
02:43:55,590 --> 02:43:53,600
the i do the the first goodbye and then

4497
02:43:57,990 --> 02:43:55,600
you do the second goodbye

4498
02:43:59,590 --> 02:43:58,000
and then he gets and then it gets quiet

4499
02:44:01,510 --> 02:43:59,600
and then i'm waiting for like the the

4500
02:44:03,030 --> 02:44:01,520
real music to come up

4501
02:44:07,830 --> 02:44:03,040
okay well hold on let me let me try

4502
02:44:17,030 --> 02:44:09,990
well you know this this has been a lot

4503
02:44:23,190 --> 02:44:18,950
how dare you

4504
02:44:25,830 --> 02:44:23,200
all right all right take three

4505
02:44:26,790 --> 02:44:25,840
we're gonna take three ready

4506
02:44:29,110 --> 02:44:26,800
well

4507
02:44:30,389 --> 02:44:29,120
this hey man this is

4508
02:44:34,240 --> 02:44:30,399
damn it

4509
02:44:35,429 --> 02:44:34,250
okay take four take four what what

4510
02:44:42,469 --> 02:44:35,439
[Music]

4511
02:44:45,110 --> 02:44:44,309
if the music all stops when i take you

4512
02:44:48,150 --> 02:44:45,120
out

4513
02:44:50,630 --> 02:44:48,160
it's just all quite awkward anyways

4514
02:44:54,150 --> 02:44:50,640
well that was fun

4515
02:44:58,150 --> 02:44:54,160
giant stone balls

4516
02:45:02,870 --> 02:44:58,160
giant blocks of

4517
02:45:06,790 --> 02:45:04,950
hey dude

4518
02:45:08,309 --> 02:45:06,800
it was a good episode it was awesome i

4519
02:45:10,150 --> 02:45:08,319
had fun tonight

4520
02:45:12,309 --> 02:45:10,160
hey night

4521
02:45:15,670 --> 02:45:12,319
go mimi's

4522
02:45:16,870 --> 02:45:15,680
it's time to go mimi

4523
02:45:18,309 --> 02:45:16,880
baby

4524
02:45:21,110 --> 02:45:18,319
totally gonna do that

4525
02:45:23,269 --> 02:45:21,120
[\h__\h] i am about to go mimi's dude

4526
02:45:25,349 --> 02:45:23,279
oh yeah all right dude i'll talk to you

4527
02:45:27,060 --> 02:45:25,359
later man peace dude it's been great

4528
02:45:35,380 --> 02:45:27,070
we'll see y'all later

4529
02:45:35,390 --> 02:45:38,640
[Music]

4530
02:45:45,990 --> 02:45:41,430
[Applause]